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Lsut81
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I thought the Sequester cuts are mainly effecting Government Contractors?

Why is the President up there claiming that Teachers, Firefighters, and Police will lose their jobs and parents will have to find something to do with their kids, since they won't be able to go to school?

I haven't seen anything saying that govt funds to the states are being cut, which those listed above's salaries come out of...







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Meauxjeaux
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Hopefully we're seeing boycriedwolf syndrome.





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Federal Tiger
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This is the email I received yesterday from one Secretary:

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Subject: Update on Preparations for Potential Sequestration
I write this memorandum with a heavy heart as we prepare to implement sequestration reductions on March 1, 2013. I maintain hope that Congress will act and reach agreement on a balanced deficit reduction plan that avoids these senseless cuts. However, with the deadline only days away, we are finalizing our plans and have started taking immediate actions to prepare for the devastating impacts.

The President has stated that the sequester is bad policy and I agree. The sequester is an across-the-board reduction that slashes activities without discretion and will reduce the level of direct services we provide to the American public across the country. It will have a wide range of long-term destructive consequences for our mission and programs – negatively impacting our entire workforce. I promised you that we would share what we knew as soon as information was available. Although we are still finalizing our implementation plans, we expect the following:

All of our 76,000 employees will face challenges in performing their mission. We are facing incredibly difficult choices in how to implement the sequester. I want to be clear that there are no good choices – all of the choices we make have negative long-term consequences on our ability to perform our mission. All of the tools that we are using to mitigate impacts of this indiscriminate reduction will nonetheless have impacts on your ability to perform your mission and serve the American public. We are implementing hiring freezes, reducing overtime, reducing travel, eliminating conferences, reducing training, reducing contracts, reducing cooperative agreements, and reducing grants – each of these has a negative impact on mission delivery.

Thousands of permanent employees will be furloughed. While we are still finalizing our implementation plans, we expect that thousands of permanent employees will be furloughed for periods of time up to 22 work days. The specific numbers of employees and the duration will vary from bureau to bureau and program to program. You can expect to hear more next week from your bureau and office leadership about potential impacts within your organization. Let me assure you that all affected employees will be provided at least 30 days notice prior to executing a furlough or in accordance with the designated representative collective bargaining agreement as appropriate. We will also continue to engage in discussions with employee unions as appropriate, to ensure that any furloughs are applied in an appropriate manner meeting agency mission requirements. If you have questions on this issue, I would encourage you to go to the Office of Personnel Management website, which has helpful information and answers to frequently asked questions regarding furloughs (found at www.opm.gov/furlough, under the “administrative furlough” section).

Many seasonal employees will be furloughed, have delayed starts, shortened employment periods, or will not be hired at all. Our seasonal workforce is an essential part of our workforce. Many of our seasonal employees come back year after year to perform our mission. They fight fires, provide visitor services to millions of Americans, and perform vital field and scientific work. Many of our seasonal employees will be furloughed, have delayed starts, or face shortened employment periods. In some cases, we will not have the financial resources to hire seasonal employees at all. All seasonal employees that are furloughed will be provided at least 30 days notice prior to execution of the furlough.

We will be unable to hire the number of students that we had planned – halting the progress on youth hiring of the last 4 years. Our students are a vital part of our workforce today and integral to the Interior workforce of tomorrow. We will be unable to meet our youth hiring goals. We also expect significant reductions to our cooperative agreements with our partners that fund youth work crews and are the foundation for our vision of a 21stCentury Conservation Corps. Our inability to hire students and enter into cooperative agreements will have lasting impacts as these young people are forced to find work elsewhere and ultimately make different long-term employment choices.

I want to be clear that the sequester’s impacts will be felt long beyond the next 7 months. Indeed it threatens the long-term viability and execution of our mission. The sequester will compromise our ability to implement the President’s all-of-the-above energy strategy due to reductions in oil, gas, and coal development programs. Middle-class Americans who expected to spend their summer vacations at our 398 national parks, 561 refuges, and over 258 public land units will encounter reduced hours and services or even closures. Local communities and businesses that rely on these great outdoor places to support their livelihoods will face a loss of income from reduced visitation to national parks, refuges, and public lands. Basic community services supported by the grants and payments we make to states and counties throughout the country will be cut. We also anticipate reductions in the level of support services to Tribes, which again translates into reductions in basic services to millions of tribal members. Given our large footprint on the American landscape and the diverse constituency our programs support, we expect that impacts to the public will be felt in hundreds of communities around the Nation.

Over the last 4 years we have made great progress by working together to deliver on a bold agenda that is generating significant results and includes reforms of the oil and gas programs, creation of a renewable energy frontier, renewed commitments to conservation through America’s Great Outdoors, a focus on job creation through greater support of the conservation economy, stronger relationships with Native Americans, and high employment levels of youth. The sequester will roll back many of these advances and reduce the capacity we so diligently constructed.

It is my earnest hope that this senseless but avoidable crisis will be averted. Please know that I am working around-the-clock, tirelessly advocating on your behalf and on the behalf of the millions of Americans who rely upon our services. Thank you for your service and perseverance in this most difficult time.


I want to go on record and say let it happen. I have always argued in my building alone you could gut 30% of the employees immediately, and you would never even notice, but they are protected by OPM to do absolutely nothing after they make 1 year of service.

Plus, we are paying Argonne Labs $90 million dollars right now to do something we did over 10 years ago.... shite is ridiculous.

Then Congress gave us an additional 70 million to improve our systems. What do we do? Just creat "Teams" internally to do the jobs they were already required to do.




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all of the choices we make have negative long-term consequences on our ability to perform our mission.


Well, Secretary, that's the point. Your "mission" IOOC.






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Lsut81
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I have always argued in my building alone you could gut 30% of the employees immediately, and you would never even notice, but they are protected by OPM to do absolutely nothing after they make 1 year of service.


I could imagine that figure or maybe slightly higher is across all of the Federal Government.






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Federal Tiger
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Your imagination isn't far off - especially in DC. I constantly see and hear about abuse with time. For example,
1) a lot of offices work on the honor system of not signing in and out as they leave or arrive. People show up at 0900, take a two hour lunch to workout, and then leave at 1530 for a 9 hour work day.
2) DC promotes a lot of telecomuting, and people basically take that as a day off as opposed to "working" from home.
3) Everyone who works the 9 hour compressed schedule, gets a day off during each pay period

My point is, on any given day, you probably have less than 70-percent of the entire Federal workforce working at once (due to time fraud, telecommuting work, and compressed schedules) and nobody even notices.



Not to mention most Federal employees make much more comparatively to the private sector....let it fricking burn.






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RCDfan1950
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Government employment (Local, State, and Fed) has become a bubble of sorts; the whole economy is now based on this deficit-enabled bubble.

We can let the air out gradually, and it'll hurt. Or we can let it continue to expand until it explodes.

Too bad our *leaders* don't just get up there an spell it out.







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LSUwag
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Federal Tiger


I assume you work in the Department of Interior.

I am in the Judiciary and they are talking the same BS. Meanwhile, they are still hiring new full time employees because they fear having unfilled jobs being eliminated.

They too and talking about a 22 day furlough. I say bring it one and shut it down and then the public will realize that it has no impact on services whatsoever.









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Lsut81
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let it fricking burn.








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Lsut81
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I'm watching a debate on the sequester and seeing some of the WH's claims... fricking comical


10k Teachers Laid Off
FBI Agents Furloughed
US Attorneys to drop cases and let criminals go free
Unemployment benefits to fall by 9.8%
TSA employees laid off, unsafe travel







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DC promotes a lot of telecomuting


They really bust our asses if we telework. They pull up your productivity and verify that you actually worked. We have had more people get in trouble over this than anything in recent years.

I am the "Duty Officer" this week. It is uncompensated work where I am on call 24-7 for seven days to respond to alerts on house arrest. It freaking sucks. Not because the offenders are misbehaving but, because their officers are lazy pieces of shite who won't put appropriate schedules in and who refuse to make their cell phones available to them to address schedule changes and emergencies. for 20 years, I've given out my cell number to all of my offenders and not once have I ever had anybody abuse that.

The vast majority of my peers are lazy pieces of crap who do not deserve the career that they have.

31 more months and I am retiring and will never look back.

Let it burn.






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How hypocritical of this administration. They claim all this doom and gloom and they just orchestrated a massive cut in the Postal Service by eliminating working on Saturdays. All because the government never could run anything without failure.





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cuyahoga tiger
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this sequester is totally BS...firstly the seq is not really cutting ANY current spending, it is simply stopping the anticipated EXTRA spending...in addition the firefighter,teacher etc being laid off line is total scare tactics as these positions are all locally/state funded and not fed funded...those jackasses in DC including the Pres all agreed this was the best way to do very little budget work and now they are ALL blaming each other...totally pathetic looser politicians...we should never expect any different from these jokes of patriots...both R's and D's





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LSUgusto
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Why is the President up there claiming that Teachers, Firefighters, and Police will lose their jobs
I wish someone would ask him, since he's the one that insisted on this bill.

quote:

76,000 employees
Good lord. Yeah, no room for cuts, huh?






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IbalLSUfaninVA
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Let me say this since I follow this daily. It will affect everyone in us but mostly affect government in the short term but government contractors in the long run after their current contract end.

Any more question just ask.






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Federal Tiger
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They really bust our asses if we telework. They pull up your productivity and verify that you actually worked.


Ha...it is widely abused in DC and our Headquarters office in Herndon. Local managment in my office in New Orleans has been fighting it off, but it is only a matter of time before OPM forces them to grant everyone telecommuting ability which will only guarantee more abuse and less work output.

What pisses me off even more, every damn Tom, Dick and Harry (even admin support, eg secretaries) has a Blackberry and an iPad paid for by the tax payers. We also have remote access through the world wide web....there is no excuse for not being accessible or doing work when you are telecommuting.

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vast majority of my peers are lazy pieces of crap who do not deserve the career that they have.


I have been working on a coffee table book that puts on display the stories of Federal Employees.
- a chapter on one guy who spends over 6 hours a day at the local starbucks and maintains a job over 100k
- a chapter on a person who had womens' underwear and porno in his desk (found during Katrina)
- a chapter on a guy who shite on himself the other day in the office
- a chapter on a woman who committed major time fraud by revising her time entries in QuickTime and the only punishment she recieved was she was releaved of her QuickTime management and is still employed
- a guy who registered over 80 hours on a high school message board in a 80 hour pay period and still works with us

I can go on and on....but as I said earlier - Bring on the sequester and let the morgue sort them out.







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DaGarun
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Well, clutch the pearls!!






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Lsut81
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Well, clutch the pearls!!


We are heading for a catastrophic collapse... Neither party truly wants to do anything about the debt or deficit.

The Republicans will cave next Friday, I guarantee it.

I heard estimates that over the next 10 years, the CBO expects us to be at 26T in Debt



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It will be interesting when the gov't can't pay its bills and pensions;the gravy train gets interupted and the shite hits the fan. I agree Washington knows we will never payoff our debt so they will spend until the whole system crashes. If we can't cut the rate of growth for a few depts wihout the crying wait until 10-15% will need to be cut at one time. The libs think taxes are the answer; this will only continue to slow the economy hence more gov't help.





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Lsut81
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I'm no where near a financial guru, I'll admit that.... I don't know what to do with my money. I'm worried that sometime down the line, the govt will truly try to tap into peoples retirements accounts, like it has been discussed here.

I really think the financial systems will be vastly different in 10-15yrs from now as the rubber meets the road






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