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Drew Orleans  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 13514 posts

| Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:57 pm)
parents allow their children to read history books? Just wondering...
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Bayou Sam  LSU Fan Snake and Jake's Christmas Club Member since Aug 2009 4113 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:02 pm to Drew Orleans)
Marxism is a theory of history. Many historians are Marxists in one way or another. And liberals / progressives aren't Marxists.
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Drew Orleans  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 13514 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:04 pm to Bayou Sam)
Liberal or progressive or marxist... That's what the /s were for.
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CaptainBrannigan  Auburn Fan Member since Jan 2010 6675 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:09 pm to Drew Orleans)
What do you mean by "history books?" If you mean history textbook, then rarely. My students do alot of primary and secondary document analysis. We use the textbook some, but the european ethnocentric narrative is not something with which I am in love.
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Bayou Sam  LSU Fan Snake and Jake's Christmas Club Member since Aug 2009 4113 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:11 pm to Drew Orleans)
Sorry folks often conflate these two very different things on this board.
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Gray Tiger  LSU Fan Prairieville, LA Member since Jan 2004 19845 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:11 pm to CaptainBrannigan)
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but the european ethnocentric narrative is not something with which I am in love.
This is gonna be good: in what are you in love?
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Bayou Sam  LSU Fan Snake and Jake's Christmas Club Member since Aug 2009 4113 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:13 pm to CaptainBrannigan)
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CaptainBrannigan
You an academic?
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Drew Orleans  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 13514 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:13 pm to CaptainBrannigan)
Books that explain and discuss the past... A country's rise, life and fall... and an explanation behind each.
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Drew Orleans  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 13514 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:14 pm to Bayou Sam)
agreed
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PaddlingTiger  LSU Fan St. Louis, MO Member since Jun 2010 928 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:21 pm to Drew Orleans)
Liberals and progressives write most of the history books.
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CaptainBrannigan  Auburn Fan Member since Jan 2010 6675 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:28 pm to Drew Orleans)
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Books that explain and discuss the past... A country's rise, life and fall... and an explanation behind each.
History books are narratives, not explanations. Historian take evidence available, reconstruct events based upon that evidence, then narrate why they believe those events took place. I guess you can call it explanation, but that is oversimplying the process.
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Drew Orleans  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 13514 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:36 pm to PaddlingTiger)
No matter how hard you try its hard to skew facts.
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Bayou Sam  LSU Fan Snake and Jake's Christmas Club Member since Aug 2009 4113 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:39 pm to Drew Orleans)
What facts do you have in mind?
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Drew Orleans  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 13514 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:46 pm to Bayou Sam)
Pick a country that was great then eventually fell or had a horrible incident or etc.
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Bayou Sam  LSU Fan Snake and Jake's Christmas Club Member since Aug 2009 4113 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:06 pm to Drew Orleans)
The Mongolian empire
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PaddlingTiger  LSU Fan St. Louis, MO Member since Jun 2010 928 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:06 pm to Drew Orleans)
Guns, Germs & Steel This would be a good start. It is a phenomenal book.
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Champagne  New Orleans Saints Fan French and Spanish Empire Border Member since Oct 2007 7923 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:10 pm to Gray Tiger)
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in what are you in love?
He probably wants to answer "the love that dare not speak its name", but, he's hesitant for fear of backlash.
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CaptainBrannigan  Auburn Fan Member since Jan 2010 6675 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:40 pm to Champagne)
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He probably wants to answer "the love that dare not speak its name", but, he's hesitant for fear of backlash.
well played sir. Do you really think I care what these religious nutjobs, flat-earthers, and civil war reenactors think about me?
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CajunAngele  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2012 4911 posts

| re: Do Liberal/Progressive/Marxist.... (Posted on 2/26/13 at 7:22 am to PaddlingTiger)
I believe you're correct.
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