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A major change Cameron has to make...hot route

Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:15 am
Posted by toughcrittercrumb
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
2142 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:15 am
It seemed like we never effectively picked up the blitz last season, but for some reason we never seemed to have a hot route receiver. Did the QB not make the appropriate check offs or do we not have good hot route options? The Clemson game was mainly about our RT being beaten constantly by the DE. I just don't understand why he didn't get constant help. IMO, the want to better hot routes is a big big change that has to happen.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:17 am to
If you have noticed our inability to pick up blitzes then I have faith that our NFL minded offensive coordinator will be able to put some schemes together that can protect against a college blitz package. This would include hot routes.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:17 am to
Posted by LeagueCityTiger
Atascocita, TX
Member since Dec 2007
221 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:21 am to
A hot is tough when you are predominantly I-form play action. You have to be able to see it pre-snap and adjust your 7-step to a 3-step. It's just flat out difficult under center. Things are much easier to see and make adjustments from the gun. Don't think that is the way we are headed however.
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:21 am to
Alfred Blue is our best RB by far at pass protection...it's the reason he passed some of the
othher RBs early in their careers.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:32 am to
Hot routes are really dependent on the QB and receivers recognizing blitzes and coverages pre snap. That's a difficult task to ask college kids to do, especially with how deceptive defenses are becoming.

That's why you see a lot of teams audibling from the sideline after the defense shows their alignment.

Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32410 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:41 am to
Damn, you should have applied for the OC job..
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Duckie


I came to post this.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93714 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:49 am to
What always I've always wondered about these sort of posts is that how does the OP there were no hot route options?

The OP has no idea what any of the cadences mean.

The OP would have to HEAR a cadence or Mett calling out a hot route possibility?

How would the OP know what WR would be called for that hot route?

Has the OP seen the playbook to know that the QB and WR's aren't given the options of calling hot routes?


I agree with Duckie. frick it. Red 7 Red 7 means hot route on every football field in america.

Unless you're in Maryland and you'd have to add Crabcakes somewhere in there because that's what they do.

Everyone is a coach and knows exactly what they're looking at and can hear everything even though they're either in the stadium with 90,000+ other people screaming or watching the television where Mett's miked up and only the OP's sound system can pick that up.
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 9:50 am
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27476 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:50 am to
quote:

we never seemed to have a hot route receiver
apparently you didn't actually watch the 2012 season. Mett was constantly calling audibles and throwing 5-10 yard slants. He even did it to the point that teams jumped the routes for a few INTs. He called a ton of those hot routes.

The problem is that you can't simply call a hot route on 90% of pass plays and have an effective offense. And, we needed it on 90% of plays, even when the other team didn't blitz.

Hot routes aren't the answer. Better pass protection, RB chipping and helping, and better movement in the pocket is the answer. Plus, more play action that will hopefully keep the defense on their heels instead of obvious passing downs.
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:59 am to
quote:

A major change Cameron has to make


Thanks coach
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8679 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:02 am to
I laugh at idiots like you that act like they know what they are talking about. Thanks for the input, coach.
Posted by GeauxGus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
5219 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:05 am to
" ... do we not have good hot route options ? .. "

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.. our QB had cold feet ...
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56254 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Damn, you should have applied for the OC job..


I am not responding to the hot route versus non hot route debate.

But the above comment is so juvenile.

Obviuosly our offense has troubles, to think that it could not be discussed is silly. If I see a man with a leg cut off bleeding to death, is it a fair assumption to think he needs to get it fixed? Does that mean I must be not only a Dr, but a surgeon?

I think when a team blitzes us it sets up a big play if exposed. We did not have many big plays when folks blitzed us. How to fix it, I have no idea, but isnt discussing it what fans do?
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
916 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:09 am to
Hot Route! Maybe we can get Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn to coach Les and Cam up on the hot route principle!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89512 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:37 am to
I would prefer the back or TE be the hot route on the blitz. I suspect Cameron knows how to do this.

I don't know why we cannot protect the QB and get multiple players out in routes. The QB has to get the ball out more quickly - snap, 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi - deliver the ball or throw it away. If the TE and/or back, get a chip then release, that's a great counter to an over-aggressive pass rush.
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
Guam
Member since Nov 2005
2786 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:49 am to
quote:

A hot is tough when you are predominantly I-form play action. You have to be able to see it pre-snap and adjust your 7-step to a 3-step. It's just flat out difficult under center. Things are much easier to see and make adjustments from the gun. Don't think that is the way we are headed however.


Huh? A hot route is all about the pre-snap read. That's the same in any formation.

Matt Flynn was excellent at this in 2007 with Early Doucet. Jarrett Lee was good at it in 2008 with Brandon LaFell. He was pretty good in 2011 also although I'm not sure any of the WRs were as good at helping him that year as LaFell in 2008.

It's a matter of recognition by the QB and the designated hot route WR. Works just fine from I-form. Just need to get the QB and the WR to recognize it.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:25 am to
quote:

A hot route is all about the pre-snap read.
It's fairly evident when multiple players are out of position on blitzes, the read is missed.
Odd the gumps 3-4 was covered better than Clemson's stunts.
I like the chip and release by RB/TE to slow that down, if the QB can just read strong or weak side.
It's more like a mini screen without having to commit or sell it.
It's not usually a big gainer, but gets a lot of 1sts or good DnD.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13952 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:30 am to
You know what Cam might help with........running in the C gap. Just wanted to say something from youth football like the OP.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:39 am to
Mett. simply needs to step up & make the right reads. He will have better offense Line this year. If he has it we will know early. If not they ought to give someone else a shot.
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