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A major change Cameron has to make...hot route
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:15 am
It seemed like we never effectively picked up the blitz last season, but for some reason we never seemed to have a hot route receiver. Did the QB not make the appropriate check offs or do we not have good hot route options? The Clemson game was mainly about our RT being beaten constantly by the DE. I just don't understand why he didn't get constant help. IMO, the want to better hot routes is a big big change that has to happen.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:17 am to toughcrittercrumb
If you have noticed our inability to pick up blitzes then I have faith that our NFL minded offensive coordinator will be able to put some schemes together that can protect against a college blitz package. This would include hot routes.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:21 am to toughcrittercrumb
A hot is tough when you are predominantly I-form play action. You have to be able to see it pre-snap and adjust your 7-step to a 3-step. It's just flat out difficult under center. Things are much easier to see and make adjustments from the gun. Don't think that is the way we are headed however.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:21 am to PurpleAndGold86
Alfred Blue is our best RB by far at pass protection...it's the reason he passed some of the
othher RBs early in their careers.
othher RBs early in their careers.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:32 am to toughcrittercrumb
Hot routes are really dependent on the QB and receivers recognizing blitzes and coverages pre snap. That's a difficult task to ask college kids to do, especially with how deceptive defenses are becoming.
That's why you see a lot of teams audibling from the sideline after the defense shows their alignment.
That's why you see a lot of teams audibling from the sideline after the defense shows their alignment.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:41 am to toughcrittercrumb
Damn, you should have applied for the OC job..
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:43 am to Duckie
quote:
Duckie
I came to post this.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:49 am to toughcrittercrumb
What always I've always wondered about these sort of posts is that how does the OP there were no hot route options?
The OP has no idea what any of the cadences mean.
The OP would have to HEAR a cadence or Mett calling out a hot route possibility?
How would the OP know what WR would be called for that hot route?
Has the OP seen the playbook to know that the QB and WR's aren't given the options of calling hot routes?
I agree with Duckie. frick it. Red 7 Red 7 means hot route on every football field in america.
Unless you're in Maryland and you'd have to add Crabcakes somewhere in there because that's what they do.
Everyone is a coach and knows exactly what they're looking at and can hear everything even though they're either in the stadium with 90,000+ other people screaming or watching the television where Mett's miked up and only the OP's sound system can pick that up.
The OP has no idea what any of the cadences mean.
The OP would have to HEAR a cadence or Mett calling out a hot route possibility?
How would the OP know what WR would be called for that hot route?
Has the OP seen the playbook to know that the QB and WR's aren't given the options of calling hot routes?
I agree with Duckie. frick it. Red 7 Red 7 means hot route on every football field in america.
Unless you're in Maryland and you'd have to add Crabcakes somewhere in there because that's what they do.
Everyone is a coach and knows exactly what they're looking at and can hear everything even though they're either in the stadium with 90,000+ other people screaming or watching the television where Mett's miked up and only the OP's sound system can pick that up.
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 9:50 am
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:50 am to toughcrittercrumb
quote:apparently you didn't actually watch the 2012 season. Mett was constantly calling audibles and throwing 5-10 yard slants. He even did it to the point that teams jumped the routes for a few INTs. He called a ton of those hot routes.
we never seemed to have a hot route receiver
The problem is that you can't simply call a hot route on 90% of pass plays and have an effective offense. And, we needed it on 90% of plays, even when the other team didn't blitz.
Hot routes aren't the answer. Better pass protection, RB chipping and helping, and better movement in the pocket is the answer. Plus, more play action that will hopefully keep the defense on their heels instead of obvious passing downs.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 9:59 am to toughcrittercrumb
quote:
A major change Cameron has to make
Thanks coach
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:02 am to toughcrittercrumb
I laugh at idiots like you that act like they know what they are talking about. Thanks for the input, coach.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:05 am to toughcrittercrumb
" ... do we not have good hot route options ? .. "
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.. our QB had cold feet ...
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.. our QB had cold feet ...
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:07 am to TigerBait2008
quote:
Damn, you should have applied for the OC job..
I am not responding to the hot route versus non hot route debate.
But the above comment is so juvenile.
Obviuosly our offense has troubles, to think that it could not be discussed is silly. If I see a man with a leg cut off bleeding to death, is it a fair assumption to think he needs to get it fixed? Does that mean I must be not only a Dr, but a surgeon?
I think when a team blitzes us it sets up a big play if exposed. We did not have many big plays when folks blitzed us. How to fix it, I have no idea, but isnt discussing it what fans do?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:09 am to GeauxGus
Hot Route! Maybe we can get Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn to coach Les and Cam up on the hot route principle!
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:37 am to toughcrittercrumb
I would prefer the back or TE be the hot route on the blitz. I suspect Cameron knows how to do this.
I don't know why we cannot protect the QB and get multiple players out in routes. The QB has to get the ball out more quickly - snap, 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi - deliver the ball or throw it away. If the TE and/or back, get a chip then release, that's a great counter to an over-aggressive pass rush.
I don't know why we cannot protect the QB and get multiple players out in routes. The QB has to get the ball out more quickly - snap, 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi - deliver the ball or throw it away. If the TE and/or back, get a chip then release, that's a great counter to an over-aggressive pass rush.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:49 am to LeagueCityTiger
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A hot is tough when you are predominantly I-form play action. You have to be able to see it pre-snap and adjust your 7-step to a 3-step. It's just flat out difficult under center. Things are much easier to see and make adjustments from the gun. Don't think that is the way we are headed however.
Huh? A hot route is all about the pre-snap read. That's the same in any formation.
Matt Flynn was excellent at this in 2007 with Early Doucet. Jarrett Lee was good at it in 2008 with Brandon LaFell. He was pretty good in 2011 also although I'm not sure any of the WRs were as good at helping him that year as LaFell in 2008.
It's a matter of recognition by the QB and the designated hot route WR. Works just fine from I-form. Just need to get the QB and the WR to recognize it.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:25 am to NorfolkVATiger
quote:It's fairly evident when multiple players are out of position on blitzes, the read is missed.
A hot route is all about the pre-snap read.
Odd the gumps 3-4 was covered better than Clemson's stunts.
I like the chip and release by RB/TE to slow that down, if the QB can just read strong or weak side.
It's more like a mini screen without having to commit or sell it.
It's not usually a big gainer, but gets a lot of 1sts or good DnD.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:30 am to Mayhawman
You know what Cam might help with........running in the C gap. Just wanted to say something from youth football like the OP.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:39 am to SteveLSU35
Mett. simply needs to step up & make the right reads. He will have better offense Line this year. If he has it we will know early. If not they ought to give someone else a shot.
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