re: Lack of stars in MLB from LSU

Ole Miss has a bunch in the majors right now.

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I'm talking about quality not quantity. Talking about stars

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I don't know man. What school has a lot of stars in any sport?

Because college play is not required and the best players are typically drafted out of high school.

The best arms get drafted by and large but beyond that it is fair game for college ball.

Brian Wilson is an All Star when healthy. Not too shabby

foreigners

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I guess the same question could be asked for football too

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No it can't

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There are Europeans and some Chinese in the NBA.

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To add, Europe would do wonders for basketball over there by creating a "European Union Basketball League" or something close to that. There is PLENTY of talent over in europe, problem is each tiny country has their own pro league so the talent gets so spread out.

In fact, I bet a lot of top high school kids would go play pro in a european league like that for a year on a big 1 year contact vs. playing in college here for 1 year.

Basically have the major cities each have a team...
Berlin
Barcelona
Madrid
Milan
Rome
London
Prague
Paris
Athens
Naples
Lisbon
Warsaw
Budapest
Stockholm
etc....


Would be fricking legit

Dammit, what's wrong with you people? Why do you feel the overriding need to chime in on pg. 3 of a thread with the same shite that gets repeated by everybody and their mother ad nauseum, without having read any of the arguments in the thread itself?

shite, man. I just laid out the case that what everybody is saying is not really true. There is a pretty even 3-way split among foreigners, U.S. players straight from HS, and U.S. players from college. This doesn't seem to change one bit whether you are talking about the very top talent of MLB, or for MLB players in general. It's roughly 1/3-1/3-1/3 pretty much all the way through.

Why do people have to be such ignorant pricks?

From the 2012 MLB All-Star Rosters ( LINK):

Hitters

Foreign (17): Cano, Beltre, Bautista, Ortiz, Votto, Sandoval, Furcal, Me. Cabrera, Beltran, Mi. Cabrera, A. Cabrera, Andrus, Molina, Ruiz, Altuve, Castro, Gonzalez

Straight from U.S. HS (18): Napoli, Fielder, Jeter, Hamilton, Kemp, Mauer, Konerko, Ad. Jones, Trout, Trumbo, Butler, Wright, Ch. Jones, Desmond, Bruce, Harper, McCutchen, Stanton

From U.S. colleges (10): Granderson, Posey, Uggla, Wieters, Kinsler, Dunn, LaHair, Freese, Bourn, Braun

Pitchers

Foreign (4): Darvish, Hernandez, Rodney, Chapman

Straight from U.S. HS (10): Harrison, Jim Johnson, Peavy, Sabathia, Cain, Gio Gonzalez, Hamels, Hanrahan, Kershaw, Lynn

From U.S. colleges (14): Cook, Nathan, Perez, Price, Sale, Verlander, Weaver, Wilson, Dickey, Kimbrel, Miley, Papelbon, Strasburg, Street


Players who turned down college scholarships to sign pro contracts after negotiations:
Harrison -- NCSU
Peavy -- Auburn
Sabathia -- Hawaii
Hanrahan -- Nebraska
Kershaw -- TAMU
Jeter -- Michigan (actually took fall classes there)
Trout -- ECU
Butler -- UF
Wright -- GT
Holliday -- Oklahoma St.
McCutchen -- UF
Stanton -- SCAL



So hitters: 17/18/10
And pitchers: 4/10/14
TOTAL: 21/28/24



So basically, the same rough 3-way split is seen at the very top as everywhere else.

The foreigners definitely have a huge comparative advantage when it comes to producing the game's best hitters, but the best pitchers still mostly come from college ball.

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shite, man. I just laid out the case that what everybody is saying is not really true. There is a pretty even 3-way split among foreigners, U.S. players straight from HS, and U.S. players from college. This doesn't seem to change one bit whether you are talking about the very top talent of MLB, or for MLB players in general. It's roughly 1/3-1/3-1/3 pretty much all the way through.

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In other words, only about 1/3 of major leaguers play in college. The rest go straight to HS or are foreigners.

That's what we've been telling you. shite man, why do you feel the need to chime in on page three without reading your own argument in the thread itself?

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Why do people have to be such ignorant pricks?

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Good question that you should answer.