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I hate to be political but if your gun rights are sacred to you then ....
Posted on 2/9/13 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 2/9/13 at 12:27 pm
You need to go to demandaplan.com and boycott every one of the whiny little celebrities that throw out their uneducated gun control opinions when they turn around and walk out of the recording studio followed by 2-6 armed bodyguards that they turn an ignorant blind eye to. This pisses me off. Chris Rock dropped out of high school in the 10th grade and you are going to educate me on the 2nd amendment. Bitch you can't spell the word amendment. I'm done. Support your 2nd amendment rights!
Posted on 2/9/13 at 12:48 pm to Remington Dawg
I like your attitude man.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 1:01 pm to Remington Dawg
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Chris Rock dropped out of high school in the 10th grade and you are going to educate me on the 2nd amendment. Bitch you can't spell the word amendment.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 1:11 pm to Remington Dawg
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I hate to be political
why?! i need more of it in me. i just know it'll eat me alive if i think on it too much.
good rant.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 9:20 pm to BRgetthenet
Best comment on one of the DAP videos:
"I demand a plan? to address the real issues of violence in America. I demand a plan to address mental disorders and the psychotropic drugs that exacerbate them. I demand a plan that doesn't involve the loss of basic freedoms. I demand a plan to remove these elitist propaganda videos from the Internet. I am deeply saddened by your loss, but you need to come to terms with the fact that you are being lied to. Thumbs up if you agree. And join the NRA. right now they're offering a 10 dollar discount"
This dude nailed it.
"I demand a plan? to address the real issues of violence in America. I demand a plan to address mental disorders and the psychotropic drugs that exacerbate them. I demand a plan that doesn't involve the loss of basic freedoms. I demand a plan to remove these elitist propaganda videos from the Internet. I am deeply saddened by your loss, but you need to come to terms with the fact that you are being lied to. Thumbs up if you agree. And join the NRA. right now they're offering a 10 dollar discount"
This dude nailed it.
This post was edited on 2/9/13 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 2/9/13 at 11:00 pm to bapple
There is a background check and that may soon delve into mental issues on medical records and that's fine but to relieve our 2nd admin rights because the politicians want to try a witch hunt is BS. We are beyond that and let's move on.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 11:14 pm to Remington Dawg
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There is a background check and that may soon delve into mental issues on medical records and that's fine
I have mixed feelings about this. My main question is, where is the line drawn? Can you imagine how many gun owners take some sort of prescription drug, whether for mental health or something else? I know of a few people I can personally name that are on some sort of low-dose medication. Would these people have to prove they are mentally sane enough to own a firearm?
That's the only problem I have with the mental health argument. Personally, I don't think it would make a difference, no matter how much that offends anyone. Because, remember, Adam Lanza killed his own mother to take her firearms. Someone that mentally deranged will find a way.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 11:53 pm to bapple
I can tell you as someone with a lot of years in psychology plus a degree in it that you should definitely NOT trust the idea that somehow we're going to be able to define some kind of psychological condition as being the thing that indicates someone is homicidal. DSM 5 is about to come out and if the past few have been any indication, it's going to have politically correct bullshite built into it so that aberrant behavior is defined by liberal political correctness.
I don't have a problem with them designating homosexuality, gender confusion, etc as no longer being considered psychological conditions worthy of a designation in the DSM. What I do have a problem with is the fact that this is happening every time they revise the DSM based on whatever the popular liberal opinion is. I'm sorry, but not all gender confusion is ok and not an indication of mental illness. Which tells me that the people in charge of changing the DSM are politically driven. I had too many patients that gender confusion was DEFINITELY aberrant and contributed to other psychological problems that apparently now are no longer illness in spite of the fact that these people are most definitely having real psychological base level problems.
And the DSM is the be all, end all tome of what is considered mental illness. And it's completely made up by people with an agenda who KNOW that a lot of what they are blowing off is not in their patients best interests.
It's a complicated subject all tied up in insurance payments and whatnot but believe me when I tell you that you do not want these people deciding what constitutes behaviors that allow you to maintain your civil rights. Psychology is an individual sport so to speak. To make broad sweeping judgments based on the the decisions of people who've never met the patient involved are dangerous and easily manipulated.
Do not trust the APA to determine if you are worthy of holding the same rights they have. And Obamacare has made this concern much more important.
I don't have a problem with them designating homosexuality, gender confusion, etc as no longer being considered psychological conditions worthy of a designation in the DSM. What I do have a problem with is the fact that this is happening every time they revise the DSM based on whatever the popular liberal opinion is. I'm sorry, but not all gender confusion is ok and not an indication of mental illness. Which tells me that the people in charge of changing the DSM are politically driven. I had too many patients that gender confusion was DEFINITELY aberrant and contributed to other psychological problems that apparently now are no longer illness in spite of the fact that these people are most definitely having real psychological base level problems.
And the DSM is the be all, end all tome of what is considered mental illness. And it's completely made up by people with an agenda who KNOW that a lot of what they are blowing off is not in their patients best interests.
It's a complicated subject all tied up in insurance payments and whatnot but believe me when I tell you that you do not want these people deciding what constitutes behaviors that allow you to maintain your civil rights. Psychology is an individual sport so to speak. To make broad sweeping judgments based on the the decisions of people who've never met the patient involved are dangerous and easily manipulated.
Do not trust the APA to determine if you are worthy of holding the same rights they have. And Obamacare has made this concern much more important.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 12:04 am to bapple
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I know of a few people I can personally name that are on some sort of low-dose medication.
I personally am one of those people. I suffer from a light anxiety disorder. Am I homicidal? Absolutely not. Its embarrassing, butI'm just a guy who had a lot of shite go on in my life the past few years. In no way am I incapable of doing any task. I'm a responsible gun owner. Always have been, always will be.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 12:14 am to JAB528
I just laid a loaded .45 on the coffee table in front of me..... still waiting for it to hurt me.. cant figure it out, I mean it's evil right... fricking Liberals Uneducated bunch of fks..
Ted Nugent for President
Bruce Willis VP..
Ted Nugent for President
Bruce Willis VP..
Posted on 2/10/13 at 12:19 am to JAB528
That's the thing though. One guy goes on a shooting spree that's on a prescribed drug and you can bet your arse that with the Alex Jones nutjobs screaming that it's all the drugs fault, they're gonna throw them a bone and blame it on the drugs and include that as a reason why you can't have a gun.
Are there legitimate reasons to look into the connections between psychotropic meds and these extreme violent behaviors? frick yes there are. But for 999 out of 1000 people on them, that's not an issue. It's got to be up to the Dr. He's the only one in this equation that has a fricking clue what's going on with that patient. And this Obamacare shite is practically a 180 degree teflon surface for slippery slope. It's a back door way to take your rights.
Are there legitimate reasons to look into the connections between psychotropic meds and these extreme violent behaviors? frick yes there are. But for 999 out of 1000 people on them, that's not an issue. It's got to be up to the Dr. He's the only one in this equation that has a fricking clue what's going on with that patient. And this Obamacare shite is practically a 180 degree teflon surface for slippery slope. It's a back door way to take your rights.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:05 am to faxis
Before I post, let me say, Faxis, you are one sharp dude. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely agree. I don't like leaving my rights in the hands of anyone.
JAB, I too have had anxiety issues in my past. I still have occasional heart palpitations and some random nervous moments, but I hold together just fine to the outside world. Even though I have vowed to never take a drug for my anxiety, I in no way, shape, or form believe others shouldn't be entitled to it. And even though some take drugs and some don't, it does not turn us into homicidal maniacs just for having mild anxiety issues.
There have been times when I got a bit overly nervous and tense out in public while armed (concealed of course). But, in all these instances, I never saw it fit to just rip my Ruger out and let loose. If liberals knew this, they would be shocked. They would think that just because I have mental distress occasionally that it means I will definitely go on a rampage. It's a big crock of shite.
I will say that I think a majority of the American populace is over-medicated. Whether that has to do with money (most likely) or just doctors prescribing a bunch of stuff, I don't know. But Faxis, I completely agree with you that the "mentally ill" argument is an extremely slippery slope. When I come out opposing it to specific people who ask me (who aren't firearms enthusiasts like me) they think I'm some sort of psycho and jump to conclusions. I just personally think that drawing the line somewhere is extremely difficult to do. Faxis you have an even better understanding of this with your educational background and obviously your work ethic too.
Slight anxiety? Ownership seems pretty reasonable here. Schizophrenia? Ownership is probably not ideal. But who I am to say this person can and this person can't? And who is the last decider on the rights of this person? That's the problem I have with it.
/rant
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believe me when I tell you that you do not want these people deciding what constitutes behaviors that allow you to maintain your civil rights.
Absolutely agree. I don't like leaving my rights in the hands of anyone.
JAB, I too have had anxiety issues in my past. I still have occasional heart palpitations and some random nervous moments, but I hold together just fine to the outside world. Even though I have vowed to never take a drug for my anxiety, I in no way, shape, or form believe others shouldn't be entitled to it. And even though some take drugs and some don't, it does not turn us into homicidal maniacs just for having mild anxiety issues.
There have been times when I got a bit overly nervous and tense out in public while armed (concealed of course). But, in all these instances, I never saw it fit to just rip my Ruger out and let loose. If liberals knew this, they would be shocked. They would think that just because I have mental distress occasionally that it means I will definitely go on a rampage. It's a big crock of shite.
I will say that I think a majority of the American populace is over-medicated. Whether that has to do with money (most likely) or just doctors prescribing a bunch of stuff, I don't know. But Faxis, I completely agree with you that the "mentally ill" argument is an extremely slippery slope. When I come out opposing it to specific people who ask me (who aren't firearms enthusiasts like me) they think I'm some sort of psycho and jump to conclusions. I just personally think that drawing the line somewhere is extremely difficult to do. Faxis you have an even better understanding of this with your educational background and obviously your work ethic too.
Slight anxiety? Ownership seems pretty reasonable here. Schizophrenia? Ownership is probably not ideal. But who I am to say this person can and this person can't? And who is the last decider on the rights of this person? That's the problem I have with it.
/rant
This post was edited on 2/10/13 at 2:11 am
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