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could 60 and 6 be coming to an end....
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:13 pm
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:31 pm to choupiquesushi
Paul Harvey told me farmers are the salt of the earth. They wouldn't do anything to harm the ducks.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:34 pm to choupiquesushi
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The problem stems from the fact that the federal government is mandating ethanol usage in the country, a move begun in the Bush administration that has accelerated under President Obama. As every grocery shopper knows, the use of corn in the production of ethanol has caused a severe spike in grain prices.
In August, corn reached a record-high price of $8.49 per bushel. As recently as 2005, it was $1.96 a bushel.
That hits waterfowl hunters especially hard because farmers across the fruited plain are draining wetlands and other marginal farm lands to put in crops to take advantage of the windfall.
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Last summer, Reynolds explained, the prairie pothole region had a record number of breeding ducks, which, of course, is a good thing. But the pond counts declined 35 percent.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:41 pm to choupiquesushi
Well, that was depressing to read.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:58 pm to 34venture
Farmers getting more preferential treatment from the government should shock no one. The ethanol mandates and policies are probably one of the biggest failures of our government in the last ten years. On the bright side we would have a lot less of the yahoo sky blasters around if times got tough and leases should get cheaper.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:16 pm to choupiquesushi
There are many different topics to be argued in that article. As far as seasons go, A 3/30 season would purge the duck hunter community and I think that would be a good thing.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:25 pm to Choirboy
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There are many different topics to be argued in that article.
Care to share? I'm pretty slow this afternoon..
Posted on 2/5/13 at 3:08 pm to 34venture
CRP land in the Prairie Pothole Region has annually added more than 2 million ducks to the fall flight of waterfowl, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
But even concerned hunters have grown to feel helpless while watching a federal government spend itself into oblivion, Reynolds said.
The people on this forum have no idea how much I love to duck hunt but I love my country more. If we are going to right the ship every penny that is spent on the federal level will need to be questioned. The average middle aged professional white guy like myself will be quick to say "cut out welfare" or "stop spending money on foreign aid" among many other complaints. Everybody wants to cut spending but nobody wants funding to their pet projects cut. It is a very complex problem that does not have an easy solution. Answer this:
We should start cutting funds to___________first. I bet your answer isn't something that is near and dear to you. Just my.02 and its probably worth what you paid for it.
But even concerned hunters have grown to feel helpless while watching a federal government spend itself into oblivion, Reynolds said.
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"Hunters will tell me, 'Larry, how can I in good conscience ask the federal government to spend more money on conservation when it's borrowing 45 cents of every dollar it spends?'" Reynolds said. "And those hunters are right, but what most of them don't know is that 2 percent of the defense budget pays for all the conservation we could ever need. It's a pittance.
The people on this forum have no idea how much I love to duck hunt but I love my country more. If we are going to right the ship every penny that is spent on the federal level will need to be questioned. The average middle aged professional white guy like myself will be quick to say "cut out welfare" or "stop spending money on foreign aid" among many other complaints. Everybody wants to cut spending but nobody wants funding to their pet projects cut. It is a very complex problem that does not have an easy solution. Answer this:
We should start cutting funds to___________first. I bet your answer isn't something that is near and dear to you. Just my.02 and its probably worth what you paid for it.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 3:48 pm to Choirboy
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A 3/30 season would purge the duck hunter community and I think that would be a good thing.
yes... yes it would...
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:11 pm to Choirboy
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The average middle aged professional white guy like myself will be quick to say "cut out welfare" or "stop spending money on foreign aid" among many other complaints
How do I become a professional white guy? It sounds fun!
J/j around with ya.....But I agree with you on the Fed spending problem....
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:18 pm to choupiquesushi
The question is what month would they give us?
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:23 pm to TopWaterTiger
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How do I become a professional white guy? It sounds fun!
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:28 pm to Choirboy
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A 3/30 season would purge the duck hunter community and I think that would be a good thing.
Frick 3/30. It kills the average weekend hunter. That guy only gets 8-10 hunts per year. I'd rather see some sort of season limit. Like 100 ducks per person for the entire season. Although I admit, I haven't figured out how to enforce that yet.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:37 pm to 34venture
Last time we had the 30/3 seasons, it was usually the week of thanksgiving and then a split till Xmas break. West which included coast had more in first split, east opposite pretty much. I agree this farm bill crap has to go. If CRP only works when it's feasible to farmer to set aside, what good is it other than a temporary fix.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:42 pm to treble hook
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rick 3/30. It kills the average weekend hunter. That guy only gets 8-10 hunts per year
If you are not new to duck hunting then you remember when this was the norm. Your statement only makes sense to those that have never seen anything other than a 6/60 season.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:51 pm to Choirboy
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Your statement only makes sense to those that have never seen anything other than a 6/60 season.
I'm in my mid 20s so no I've never seen the 3/30. And I hope we don't. 30 days isn't shite. Like I said alot of people don't have jobs where they can take off work the entire hunting season.
The average Joe is left facing whether or not it's worth it to buy/maintain eqipment, leases, 4 wheelers, boats, etc. just for a handful of hunts. It becomes even more of a rich man's hobby. Wrong direction to go IMO. More days and less birds would be better. I'd personally rather a 2/45.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:52 pm to Choirboy
Ahh the good ole days. Cough, cough I mean those terrible days. When a hunt at the wax meant finding someone else to go with you cause you might not see anyone all day. Catahoula was just a handful of people too. And prime blinds in SW LA where 20 cents on the dollar compared to today.
When a hunt at the wax meant finding someone else to go with you cause you might not see anyone all day. Catahoula was just a handful of people too. And prime blinds in SW LA where 20 cents on the dollar compared to today.Posted on 2/5/13 at 5:05 pm to treble hook
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It becomes even more of a rich man's hobby
This is where your way of thinking is flawed. There are so many more people hunting ducks today compared to the 3/30 days its not funny. I do hunt private land some now days but during the 3/30 seasons there was no need. You could hunt WMAs like they were private. If someone was in the spot you wanted to hunt just sit back and wait. Less folks and smaller limits meant short hunts. The average group in a blind back then couldn't have been more than 3. Today we have so many hunting one needs to spend big$. Big money means adding more people to the blind to reduce cost. I do not consider my self "rich" nor am I willing to work through the majority of hunting season. I plan year round to make sure I am satisfied at the end of January. Not happy to see the end of season but satisfied that I did my part in killing the bastards!
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 5:07 pm to treble hook
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Frick 3/30. It kills the average weekend hunter. That guy only gets 8-10 hunts per year. I'd rather see some sort of season limit. Like 100 ducks per person for the entire season. Although I admit, I haven't figured out how to enforce that yet.
if you think the feds project each hunter killing 100 ducks you are way way way off.. I think the fly way projected average is something like 18-23 birds per SEASON....
But there was a lot less BS with duck hunting in the 3 and 30 days.... that's for sure.
and.. one of those years we came awfully close to 2 and 20 or NO season..
Posted on 2/5/13 at 5:09 pm to choupiquesushi
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I think the fly way projected average is something like 18-23 birds per SEASON
Now that would piss me off
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