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dewster
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There's a documentary out there on these:
LINK

Interesting circumstances....but if anything, I think it proves that concentrating poverty and spending massive amounts in federal grants to build high density units that are nearly impossible to maintain given the occupants are generally a bad idea. No budget would be large enough to maintain it.

Feds threw money at public housing. The occupants destroyed them within a year, and the locals couldn't afford to continue maintaining them.

In all honesty, the section 8 vouchers that are widely used today take neighborhoods down pretty quickly. With some of the apartment setups that were popular since the 1970s, they are pretty providing the same kind of environment than those high density public housing projects of yesteryear.



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jcole4lsu
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I don't want my tenants working on, or hiring low-bid illegal immigrants to work on my properties.


yep, remove all personal responsibility from the equation.
make wild assumptions about who or what they can and will do
??????
profit


you sound just like ATL.






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TOPAL
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frick the gov't. Tax dollars at work.





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RogerTheShrubber
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No more inspections, no more maintainence. Much like the public schools.


Not sure about there, but local ones here have a full time maintenance staff (union wages) that work on the housing complex. They are administered through the State Housing Authority, and maintenance workers are state workers. They fight a losing battle trying to keep the place decent, and the new facilities turn to crap within a few years.

The older bldgs are very basic, newer ones were very nice, and rivaled other town homes in the area. If people don't take pride in their area and take what they have for granted, it inevitably turns to crap.






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CarrolltonTiger
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Seems like you are confusing maintain and repair.

Throwing the pork chop bones and disposable diapers down the crapper, rebuilding an engine in the living room, punching out the sheet rock, not reporting leaks, are not maintaining the building.

I agree dysfunctioanls don't make or contract for repairs, but they do a lot of damage due to anger stupidity and neglect.






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dewster
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Seems like you are confusing maintain and repair.


My thoughts exactly....and my parents own rental property, and I've spent many hours "maintaining" and "repairing" them. I am very aware of the difference.

I've heard the argument that public housing isn't properly maintained about a million times. I don't think anyone whose subscribed to that belief are being intellectually honest or realistic about the astronomical costs associated with housing some of those tenants.



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WildTchoupitoulas
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I agree dysfunctioanls don't make or contract for repairs, but they do a lot of damage due to anger stupidity and neglect.

Right, and in the past, they would be evicted.

Also, this housing wasn't designed to be a permenant solution. You fell on hard times, applied for public housing, got back on your feet and moved on.

The government is failing in that they cannot seem to be able to evict people any longer, and they are keeping people dependent on the government handouts/subsidies.






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RogerTheShrubber
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In all honesty, the section 8 vouchers that are widely used today take neighborhoods down pretty quickly.


This was pretty popular by the "dignity" crowd around here until these section 8 folks actually moved into their neighborhood, and now we are back to projects. There is still a limited voucher program, but it's extremely limited.

They encourage these folks to move up in the world by offering no down payment financing (or down payment "grants") and mortgage assistance for them to become homeowners.



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Federal Tiger
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In NO we build housing for the dysfunctionals in the range of 250K to 375K per unit. Excluding land acquisition costs.


Fisher Housing Projects:









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WildTchoupitoulas
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My thoughts exactly.

Repair is a big part of maintenance.

I expect my tenants to sweep and mop, but not to refinish the floor. I expect them to clean the toilet and bath, but not to clean out the sewer line. I allow my tenants to paint, but they deduct the cost of materials and pint from the rent. I expect my tenants to not plow too close to the ditch, but I don't expect them to pay for materials to put a culvert in. I expect my tenants to grade the road, but not to rebuild a bridge.






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Federal Tiger
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St. Thomas

From this:




To this:







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Cholo
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GP Medium or clamshell left over from military use.





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Decatur
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something else for white folks to be mad about.

So much stress being white!


So much lulz in this thread






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junkfunky
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So much lulz in this thread


Yep, and all it took was for a lib to start race-baiting. Lulzers






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TupeloTiger
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I'll tell you my experience in January. I work for a well known retail chain. Some of our old 50's/60's buildings are closed and are being leased and remodeled for Gov't use. Groups of Obama people are meeting with us and offering to remodel these old big buildings with UNLIMITED federal funds for the handicapped,blind, and poor to have a close to normal life. They get Handicapped remodeling grants of $27,000.00 to pay their minority contractor with NO BIDs to remodel two handicap bathrooms and a kitchen. Then they come back in 90 days after, to remodel sleeping and rest areas. Money is no issue, it's Federal Grants they get. Bureaucrats from big out-of-state offices come inspect twice,early and late, they approve the grants. They have to be minority,handicapped,blind, wheelchair bound, or speach impediment to get the grants. $27,000.00 per bathroom and kitchen. Plus, 10%,2,700.00 for monthly expenses. What expenses after electricity,water,gas, cable? It's a scam, abused, and too expensive. It's going on all over the country.





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RogerTheShrubber
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Yep, and all it took was for a lib to start race-baiting. Lulzers


It's the same race baiting turds. Every thread.\

Weird, many places don't have many black folk and do have public housing. Some people are stuck on race though, can't help them.






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Paluka
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Some people will never take care of anything that they own or don't own. However, ownership makes a difference in most cases. My home is well taken care of because I paid for it.





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heartbreakTiger
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so why on earth would the government spend so much damn money on something that's going to be messed up in no time flat anyway? What is the reason for this insanity if they already know what's going to happen to the place?

votes aren't free so they have to keep providing housing for the vote farms. if they didn't they would starve and die off and they would lose votes.






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CarrolltonTiger
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So much lulz in this thread


Like what?






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Redbone
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I don't care what color the losers are, they should be given housing no better than what I grew up in. Nice screens on the windows to allow cool air in due to no A/C. No insulation on any part of any room in a building with a tongue and groove floor 2 feet off of the ground. Nice space heaters in every room. Ship lap siding exterior walls and rough hewn 1X12 boards on interior walls. Nice floral pattern wall paper that comes unglued and rolls down from the top during windy days. Keep the place up or pay for repairs. I (white guy) and my black and Mexican neighbors lived well and prospered. I don't owe those lazy dope headed bastages anything. Screw 'em.





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