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OB Opinion: Ruger M77 Hawkeye 30-06 or Winchester Model 70 .270
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:33 pm
I bought my Model 70 last year and love it. My father in law bought his 30-06 last year also. He is wanting to trade me guns because he now has multiple 30-06 rifles, and doesn't own a .270. The only reason I am contemplating it, is for the versatility of the 30-06. But honestly, I don't really hunt anything other than whitetail...so do I really want/ need the 30-06? What's the OB's opinion?
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:37 pm to lsugerberbaby
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Ruger M77 Hawkeye 30-06 or Winchester Model 70 .270
Both great just get whichever one you like best.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:38 pm to lsugerberbaby
I'll say model 70, it's my favorite bolt action platform
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:55 pm to lsugerberbaby
No no no no no no no in the m77. Just, no. You have a superior rifle in the 70 as long as it's the controlled round feed.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:55 pm to lsugerberbaby
And I am biased towards the 270, but the 30-06 is a fine round.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:56 pm to INFIDEL
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no no in the m77
I thought they fixed the shitty trigger and quality control crap?
Posted on 1/16/13 at 6:00 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I heard the same thing. Have personal experience with two new ones that still exhibit HORRIBLE accuracy and weigh a ton yet still defy physics in succeeding to have the recoil of an H&H single shot chambered in 300RUM. Literally have never fired one that I'd give you a single dead president for.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 6:03 pm to INFIDEL
Well I'm glad I didn't buy one a few months ago. I came reallllllllllllllllll close to getting one in .308
As in I showed up with the cash in my wallet close.
As in I showed up with the cash in my wallet close.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 6:35 pm to lsugerberbaby
Good rule of thumb for me is to never get rid of a model 70 or pass up a good deal on one.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 6:43 pm to Run up middle
I'm a big fan of the model 70.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 6:47 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I like an 06 much better than a 270 but think the model 70 is a nicer rifle. Tough choice.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 8:53 pm to lsugerberbaby
I shoot the Winchester Model 70 .270. That is a fine, flat shooting rifle. A true classic. I wouldn't part with it.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:36 pm to Anton7
Stick with the model 70 in .270.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:45 pm to Rize
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Tabor13
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:48 pm to INFIDEL
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INFIDEL
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HORRIBLE accuracy
i've got a M77 .308 thats +15 yrs old and it has been a great gun. the only thing i have had done to it was a trigger job dropping it down to 2.5 lbs. i've never heard of the problems your talking about. elaborate pls.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:55 pm to mack the knife
I've had a M77 in .308 for 12 years and it has been an outstanding gun. Never had an issue out of it.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 9:55 pm to mack the knife
M77's (especially the old ones) have gotten lots of bad publicity for shitty triggers and poor accuracy.
I've personally never seen one shoot all that bad. Evidently they're out there though. I haven't shot many of them.
I've personally never seen one shoot all that bad. Evidently they're out there though. I haven't shot many of them.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:09 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
i've killed 11 bucks and an uncountable number of hogs with it and have never had a problem with accuracy or anything else. at 200 yds it consistently hits sub 1". i'm really suprised about this info because it has been nothing but an outstanding gun for me and is the firearm that turned me into a ruger fan (i'm getting a gunsight scout next week).
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:17 pm to mack the knife
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at 200 yds it consistently hits sub 1".
You got lucky regardless of if they make shitty ones or not. People spend lots of money on rifles to get them to shoot close to that good.
Like I said, I've never shot one that shot what I would call bad. They were all 1.5-2 MOA rifles which is perfectly acceptable for a hunting rifle IMO. I'm sure they could have all been made to shoot better just by swapping ammo.
I personally am a huge ruger fan. It's not hard to find stuff on the internets about the issues people have had with them though.
It'll probably be my next rifle regardless of the issues people have had. I have a hard time believing ruger would not correct the issues if I had any. Ruger casts the mounts into their receivers and supplys rings with their rifles. That's reason enough for me to buy one. I'm also a huge fan of mauser actions and ruger's tendency to "overbuild" things.
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:23 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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ruger's tendency to "overbuild" things
a truer statement has never been made.
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