All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting

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Joe Alleva and Co. would wake the puck up and do something about it!!!

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Anyone that advocates for the athletic director to start forcing coaching decisions on the head coach must really want the program to go down in flames.

You can beleive what you want to beleive, but if you bothered to objectively look at history and not just want to fret and bash LSU's coaches you'd realize this is not really true. Sure devolpement plays a role. But talent is the most important factor.

As just 1 example, I offer the University of Texas. The same coaches were there when they had Applewhite, Simms, Chance Mock and Garret Gilbert as where there when they had Vince Young and Colt McCoy.

Coaching in college to me is the most important piece. Talent obviously plays a big role, but these kids are still learning how to play the position they are recruited for. The biggest problem everyone sees with LSU is play calling and offensive play design not talent. That is squarely on the coaches. They have installed a system that is far to simple to defend period. This was done purposely and is now not working and not going to work as every member of our conference has seen it for two years now. If Miles is to stubborn or shortsighted to see it he deserves to be let go. If he does nothing the program will slowly start to look like Miami and FSU.

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Oh boy, you're going to get it!!!! For what its worth I agree 100%.....just with Joe Alleva and Co. would wake the puck up and do something about it!!!! Obviously, if left up to CLM nothing will happen.

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FIRE EVERYONE! DEEERRRP!

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Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting

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but i keep hearing that LSU wins on talent alone...

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The truth hurts, but when you see far less talented QBs every year surpass the performance of our guys, you have to put it on the coaching staff and their inability to develop guys' full potential.

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LA Tech had the number one offense in the NCAA this year--would you like to trade talent with them?

Dude it isn't about flashy---it is about grinding out a season thru the the SEC. The difference between our rank of 85 and BAMA's rank of 31 is 75 yards per game---it really is 3 or 4 additional catches per game, which in turn would extend some drives and keep the opposing offense on the sideline. OF COURSE, the better solution would be to revamp the entire O w/ a new coordinator and new scheme and new personality and new timing patterns, so we can??????????

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we do win most of the games we win on Talent aloen

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and all this time i thought you knew what the hell you were talking about

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BAMA's rank of 31 is 75 yards per game---it really is 3 or 4 additional catches per game

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It really isn't that simple alot of that is becuase they are getting defended, because the defense knows exactly what we are going to do. They know exactly when we are going to pass because we run 90% of the time on first and second down, so we get an all out blitz or they overload one side and rush more than we can block and Mett has to eat it, throw it away, or try to run and end up falling down.

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All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting

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This is not a fact. this is opinion. Players make coaches. plain and simple. Nick saban, who many hold in high regard around here, would not win a n.c. at vandy. And, he had the same record as shula did the prior year at bama his first year.

He recruited bettter players, bama became better. he was a loser in the n.f.l. where the talent margin isn't as drastic.

Curley hallman had brett favre, not many will claim he's a great developer of qbs.

Mike martz was an offensive genius until he lost kurt warner. David cutcliff hasn't "developed" another n.f.l. qb since he lost peyton and eli.

jimbo couldn't turn marcus randal into matt mauk. he couldn't "develop xavier lee or weatherford" however, he did well with palmer.

urban meyer couldn't develop brantley, yet, tim tebow was great.

Mack brown hasn't bee able to "develop" a qb since colt mccoy.

Shanahan hasn't been able to "develop" a qb in 10 years since elway, however, he gets rgIII and he's again a qb genius.

the FACT of the matter is our qb was mark richt's, whos a qb guru's, BACK UP QB. So no, other coaches can't make them into a top tier s.e.c. QB.

The critism should be, our coaches have done a poor job recruiting/evaluating talent at the qb position.

I do think it's getting better under krags. I think we have guys coming up that can and will change the table at that position.