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Just finished seeing Django Unchained [spoilers inside]

Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:30 pm
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:30 pm
Gotta say that I was left feeling very satisfied by this film. The pace of the film was perfect and I didn't feel like they rushed any of the situations too much.


Also, Christoph Waltz has jumped to another level in my book since Inglorious Bastards. No question that Waltz deserved best supporting actor over Leo in my book.

Finally, Samuel L. Jackson cracked me up for much of the film and I felt like I was watching the Antebellum Uncle Ruckus
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:34 pm to
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Christoph Waltz has jumped to another level in my book since Inglorious Bastards


Not trying to be a dick, but makes you say this? He was literally the exact same character in Django, but a good guy. He did an excellent job but the improvement was marginal, if present at all, in my opinion. I was hoping for a bigger character difference and was kind of let down once I noticed how similar Landa and Schulz were.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:36 pm to
The movie was 20 minutes too long.

Django shoul dhave died in teh mines....

Asside from that it was very good.
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:40 pm to
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Not trying to be a dick, but makes you say this? He was literally the exact same character in Django, but a good guy.


That is EXACTLY what I thought after I watched it. Still great though.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:41 pm to
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Django shoul dhave died in teh mines....

I don't see how that would be a satisfying ending.


Carson, I don't get the feeling that he was exactly like his character in inglorious bastards
Posted by Wooly
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:42 pm to
did the girls in the theater love seeing Jamie's dick like you did
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

I don't get the feeling that he was exactly like his character in inglorious bastards


Not exactly, but very similar. He was highly-intelligent, spoke several languages and possessed a certain charm that made it hard to hate him entirely as the villain and made it easy to love him as the protagonist.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:49 pm to
fair enough, maybe I should say that his character was not what I was expecting going into the film.
Posted by Wooly
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:54 pm to
waltz was good in it.. but I think someone else could have been better... just didnt think he was the right fit
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:54 pm to
Sorry but Waltz was forgotten when Leo was on screen. It was Calvin Candie time.

Leo > everyone else in that movie. Leo showed a completely different side of him in this movie. Waltz not so much
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:55 pm to
I don't know about a jump but he was incredible in my the movie. He deserved the award and deserves more awards
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:00 pm to
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Sorry but Waltz was forgotten when Leo was on screen. It was Calvin Candie time.

Leo > everyone else in that movie. Leo showed a completely different side of him in this movie. Waltz not so much
Waltz didn't give us anything new here but he was still really solid. I agree that Leo stole the show when he was on-screen. His best role to date IMO and he should have been a front-runner for best supporting actor.
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 9:02 pm
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

he should have been a front-runner for best supporting actor

He was good, but I do not believe he was better than Tommy Lee Jones.

Waltz was very good, but as others have said he didn't bring anything different to the table.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:08 pm to

Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:16 pm to
quote:


Django shoul dhave died in teh mines....
I don't see how that would be a satisfying ending.


Carson, I don't get the feeling that he was exactly like his character in inglorious bastards


Hans Landa is the better character. But upon reflection...Waltz gave a better performance in Django. Look at how he conveyed and adapted change throughout the movie.

quote:

A common question on here seems to be, "Why or How could Schultz shoot Calvin and endanger Django, yadda yadda?" And I can't believe that is a question when you see that his character is having a major breakdown in Act II.

I see this film in 3 acts. Act I is Schultz taking Django under his wing and training him to be a bounty hunter and basically "free" him. Act II is them working as a team and us seeing Django and Schultz balance their duo act. Act III is Django's starring role as we see him emerge as the hero he was trained to be.

But Act II is where its apparent that Schultz is now "breaking." It's all over the place in Act II. Even him asking Candie if he may talk to Django, after a mishap, would raise a red flag and Django even scolded him for it. Then Schultz tries to reimburse Candie so the slave won't be ripped apart by dogs. He's breaking even more. The roles of Django and Schultz have now switched as Django is now the one with common sense as Schultz is, simply, losing it. It's obvious the effect of the slave being ripped apart had on him. When Candie is on to them and giving the skull-speech, it is obvious how shaken Schultz is. He is never going to recover from that. When Candie slams the hammer and pretends to smash Hildi, just look at Schultz, he's cowering like a baby.

The next scene is us seeing him fully engulfed in his downfall. He even loses it and tells the harp player to stop playing. This man is gone. Logic escapes him now. He's not the cool-cat he was in the beginning. In many ways, saving Django caused him to bring himself down and ultimately his own life. I see Django as not only a tale of slavery for black people but slavery in general. The whole portion of Act II is Schultz learning what it's like to be in a slave-like world, being paraded around by Candie and having to oblige him and act like everything is fine despite all the torment he witnesses along the way. He's no longer in charge like he was in Act I.



The point of this post is...how can you still ask the same question of, "Why did Schultz let himself die?" or "Why did Schultz kill Candie and just stand there?" HE'S A MADMAN I TELL YA! :)
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:35 pm to
Wow that's an outstanding post and observation
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:45 pm to
I thought Schulz had a slapstickish quality that the Landa character never possessed. Landa was funny and witty but not in a way that you felt like you should laugh.
Posted by auburn32
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:24 pm to
Agreed, nice analysis
Posted by 504Voodoo
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 3:10 pm to
Awesome analysis
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:13 pm to
Yea.

I just love how layered this movie's characters are.

From Stephen, to Candie, to Schultz, to Django.

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