re: 2013 NFL Draft -- Saints Mock Draft Compliation

I'm kinda the opposite. I think there's a much larger than usual group of veteran QBs that will be available. Not all free agents but highly likely to get moved. Including:

Alex Smith- my KC guess for pick #63
Michael Vick- could or could move on from Philly
Matt Flynn- if not traded will be cut at $5.25million
Matt Moore
Jason Campbell
Tim Tebow
Tavaris Jackson
Chase Daniel UFA again too

hard to know what will happen with Vick. That new offense with the Eagles coached by Chip Kelly might be the perfect fit for him. But the thing with Vick is, if the Eagles do let him go, would a team really want to bring him in as their starter? He has been knocked around the last few years and suffered multiple concussions.

I think Flynn could be a decent QB but we haven't seen enough of him to really know. Everybody (mainly MSB posters) laughed when he couldn't win the starting job in Seattle but we all ended up seeing why he didn't get it. Russell Wilson looks to be totally legit.

I just feel like Flynn had that one awesome game against the Lions in that season finale a few years ago and there was some overreaction. I mean the Lions secondary hasn't been that good in awhile and its not like Green Bay doesn't have some solid WR's.

Living in P'cola I've seen plenty of EJ. very smart and underated as a athelte.
Seems to have all the tools in making the throws neede in NFL just never put in a consistent year. Maybe good coaching and stability will make a starter of him.
Good kid. Could be a find.

similarly we could do a Grantham and Jarvis Jones-John Jenkins-Ogletree-Rambo-Kwame Geathers kinda deal

yeah, was just noting that is a large number of GA players that could go pretty early

Adding Kiper Mock 2.0

1 Kansas City Chiefs Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2 Jacksonville Jaguars Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
3 Oakland Raiders Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
4 Philadelphia Eagles Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
5 Detroit Lions Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
6 Cleveland Browns Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
7 Arizona Cardinals Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
8 Buffalo Bills Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
9 New York Jets Dion Jordan, OLB/DE, Oregon
10 Tennessee Titans Barkevious Mingo, OLB/DE, LSU
11 San Diego Chargers Johnathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
12 Miami Dolphins Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Manti Te'o, MLB, Notre Dame
14 Carolina Panthers Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
15 New Orleans Saints Shariff Floyd, DT, Florida

passing on Hankins and Ansah

Ogletree and Cooper are the two out of those i disagree with most for value/draft position.

I'm thinking at least one team will take a QB before #15 too. You have to go back 13 years to find the first QB taken below #3- Pennington at #18.

Seems pretty high for Cooper, considering he's a guard and Warmack has been considered the #1 guard. But then again, I know nothing about Cooper.

This would be a pretty bad draft for us having Mingo, Jordan, Jones, and Ogletree all go top 10.

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13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Manti Te'o, MLB, Notre Dame

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Please let this happen.

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Ogletree and Cooper are the two out of those i disagree with most for value/draft position.

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yeah especially with Cooper.

you would have to go back to 1997 for the last time a team picked a guard in the Top 15.

it was the Saints, picking Chris Naeole.

and yes, I'd laugh pretty hard if the Bucs picked Te'o.

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They moved Talib, Eric Wright was such a bust there's a good chance he could be cut at $7.75mil in 2013. That leaves EJ Biggers and no one.

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yes, I was surprised that they passed up Mo Claiborne last year myself. They are one of those teams that has a lot of money to spend in free agency. I could see them picking up a corner in FA and then taking one in the first round...maybe Jonathon Banks from Mississippi State?

that's why ya gotta determine who is consensus in what range. Most every mock will have a player or two in the top half of Rd 1 that is outta whack.

Secondly, when I peruse these and look at the pick I consider who they passed on

Linked it before but THIS is a great resource to know which mockers are repuatable and know their shite

90% are prolly chaff just compiling from other lists. I try to list only the good ones and some of the bigger more recognized ones

have a big issue with them dropping Jarvis Jones to #17. Yes, he could fall out of the Top 5 on medical concern. I just can't see that far at all.

I can't imagine Jordan over Jones if both were available also. I count them both more likely gone than available at #15- but with Jordan still being a real possibility.