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re: How are the Patriots in the AFC Championship game every single year?

Posted on 1/13/13 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/13/13 at 9:31 pm to
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Tremendous organization.

Tremendous coach.

Tremendous QB.
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 9:36 pm to
There is only 1 right answer.

TOM BRADY
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/13/13 at 9:47 pm to
They cheat
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:12 pm to
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its the peyton manning drill. slaughter your weak arse division. then u take care of that piece of shite team in your first playoff game. next is the acf title game is your real challenge but your opponent ant get out of his own way most of the time so.... but now that there is no spying, there is no chance of NE winning another SB!!!





It's no Peyton Manning drill. I don't know if you saw, but during the game they said that if Brady won tonight then he would either tie or jump ahead of Joe Montana for most playoff wins in a career. Brady is as clutch as they come, BB is as great of a coach as they come, and the whole Patriots organization is as good as they come. From the top on down, they're a well-oiled machine... as displayed by their record in the last decade.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:34 pm to
This thread is a mixed bag

Either full retard or fully functioning adults. No in between
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:39 pm to
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TOM BRADY



except they played pretty damn well without him

it is a combination of Kraft, BB, Brady, etc. Free agents want to play there and they can plug players in and make things work.
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 10:41 pm
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 10:49 pm to
Great coaching and continuously finding players that fit their winning system
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:06 pm to
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except they played pretty damn well without him





I love this argument.

The team the year before went 16-0 in the regular season.

The team minus Brady went 11-5.

so lets make the argument that it was a 12-4 team the year before. It would have been a 7-9 team.
Posted by afatgreekcat
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
2828 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:09 pm to
So I'm just going to assume that you get off to Tom Brady modeling photos? Because you've been sucking his nuts all over this site all day.

ETA:

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Jcorye1
LSU Fan
Tom Terrific (greater than) Brees




Get the frick off our board.
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:20 pm to
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So I'm just going to assume that you get off to Tom Brady modeling photos? Because you've been sucking his nuts all over this site all day..



This is coming from the guy saying Brady would be out of the league if it wasn't for Belichick.

I'm sorry that I enjoy seeing greatness everytime TB12 hits the field.

I'm sorry for liking a guy who 334 TDs compared to 99 interceptions (fwiw, Drew is at 324/165 and Peyton is at 436/209), who has won 3 championships (two as MVP of the SB), won two MVPs (2007 and 2010), and is a guaranteed first ballet HoFer.

I'd make some rude joke about Brees, but I'm not ignorant enough to think he's some sort of average player that succeeds because of system.

Oh, and just for shits and giggles.

2001-2005 were run based system that used playaction as a main source of big plays in the passing game. Defense was critical.

2007-2009 were the Brady to Moss connection. All shotgun vertical game with little draws to stay effective.

2010 was the Army of Smurfs offense.

2011 was the Tightends/Welkah offense, with a non-existent running game.

This year is crazy hurry up, power running, and just abusing NFL defenses with how crazy adaptable and flexible this offense is.

That is 5 completely different offensive systems, one was even implemented MID SEASON because Randy was traded.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:21 pm to
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Get the frick off our board.



I have more posts on this board than you have total.

By the way, I don't think I've said anything that even implies Drew Brees isn't a top tier quarterback, future HoFer, and potential MVP player every single year he trots out of the tunnel.
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 11:23 pm
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:25 pm to
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By the way, I don't think I've said anything that even implies Drew Brees isn't a top tier quarterback, future HoFer, and potential MVP player every single year he trots out of the tunnel.


Yet this was needed

quote:

Tom Terrific (greater than) Brees
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:28 pm to
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I love this argument.



i wasn't trying to bash brady. I was trying to compliment the Patriots organization. Brady is arguably the GOAT
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:32 pm to
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i wasn't trying to bash brady. I was trying to compliment the Patriots organization. Brady is arguably the GOAT



Sorry, I was a little irritated from the Troll.

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:32 pm to
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Yet this was needed




Thats been my tagline for like 5 years, and now everyone cares?
Posted by afatgreekcat
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2013
2828 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:35 pm to
ETA:I am not/was not trolling, btw

quote:

This is coming from the guy saying Brady would be out of the league if it wasn't for Belichick.


Read it again. I said there was a possibility he wouldn't be in New England anymore. I never said he wouldn't be in the league.

quote:

I'm sorry for liking a guy who 334 TDs compared to 99 interceptions (fwiw, Drew is at 324/165 and Peyton is at 436/209), who has won 3 championships (two as MVP of the SB), won two MVPs (2007 and 2010), and is a guaranteed first ballet HoFer.


That is all great. I'm glad for you. But I fail to see the point of going on a New Orleans Saints board to talk about your love for the Patriots.

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I'd make some rude joke about Brees, but I'm not ignorant enough to think he's some sort of average player that succeeds because of system.


I am going to clarify what I meant when I posted that.

Brady was not that impressive coming out of college.. His tanking in the draft is proof of that. BB drafted him and they have obviously been, for the most part, unstoppable since then. I am of the opinion that if Brady was drafted somewhere else, and was not coached by the greatest fricking football coach of all time he would not be on the same level that he is right now.

I will absolutely agree that he is a badass.. But I think that is a product of the system that Bill Belichick runs. Sure, said system has changed (as you just proved), but the common factor in all of those is Bill motherfricking Belichick. He has developed into an unstoppable force because of the system(s). That is not to say that, at this point in his career, if he went somewhere else like Peyton did, he would not find success. I firmly believe that he would. He is a damn good quarterback. But all of that success is on the shoulders of Bill Belichick.

One thing that you can say about Peyton and Brees (not to say that they're better) is that they have both found success in multiple systems, with multiple teams under multiple coaches.. Brady has always been with BB. I find it hard to crown Brady as the GOAT when BB has been there his entire career, because BB is the true GOAT.

All of that being said, I really don't want a huge argument about this. I am not trying to debate Drew vs Brady or anything like that. But you're barking up the wrong tree trying to argue about this here.

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I have more posts on this board than you have total.


Not my only account. You still have more, though.
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 11:36 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30087 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:38 pm to
I'm a saints fan, but anyone thinking that the pats aren't the best organization this past decade is smoking something. they were carried by a great defence and running game early on and now they're carried by a very good qb with a great amount of weapons they drafted and got from FA.

They're a good organization and personally I would hope the Saints could match their resume in drafting and free agency the next couple of years along with some superbowl wins. 3 superbowls in 6 years sounds quite nice to me.

But for this year, I honestly hope to God they lose. As much as I can praise them, I just hate their freaking guts.
Posted by Sanchito
Member since Apr 2012
995 posts
Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:57 pm to
Best organization in the sport. Best coach in the sport. Best quarterback in the sport. Add that together and you get a pro sports dynasty.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:00 am to
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They're a good organization and personally I would hope the Saints could match their resume in drafting and free agency the next couple of years along with some superbowl wins. 3 superbowls in 6 years sounds quite nice to me.




Ironically, the most money we ever spent in free agency blew up in the Patriot's faces. Adalius Thomas.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:56 am to
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Not my only account. You still have more, though.


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