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re: Chipper vs. Biggio

Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I hate the braves and I've heard that a million times. Basically every baseball announcer says it anytime braves were in town


Both 1st round picks who stayed with their teams for their whole career. Both enjoyed success. Chipper is adored by rednecks in the south, Jeter is adored by the northeast.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36587 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:12 pm to
This thread is another reason I hate the Stros going to the al
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:19 pm to
I was going to do an elaborate comparison of their best seasons but my computer froze and all the stats that a wrote are gone oh well.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:47 pm to
Major league teams don't get 3rd basemen for their fielding, and when it comes to 2nd basemen, fielding is important.

Just like major league teams don't care much about the fielding of their left fielder.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:48 pm to
Well, 3rd base is harder to play than 2nd.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 12:59 pm to
Yeah I really don't think there's much of an argument statistically or otherwise.

That doesn't mean Biggio wasn't amazing though. He definitely was.
Posted by TigerTale22
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Nov 2012
350 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:03 pm to
Chipper was one of the best players of the mid to late 90's and through the 2000's. Biggio was a stat compiler. He played 21 seasons and simply padded his stats. Never did anything great while Chipper was the most feared hitter in that Braves line-up.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7036 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

quote:
Chipper is the Derek Jeter of the South






Wut?




They are very different types of players I'm talking about legend wise. Folks down here LOVE Chipper.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Chipper was one of the best players of the mid to late 90's and through the 2000's. Biggio was a stat compiler. He played 21 seasons and simply padded his stats.


Name me 6 better players from 94-98 than Craig Biggio.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34603 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 1:59 pm to
You're right, Dan. One of my co-workers is a HUGE Chipper fan, but Larry Wayne spent a hell of a lot of time on the DL. And He shuts up whenever I point that out.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:06 pm to
Bigg, but I'm biased.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31897 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Major league teams don't get 3rd basemen for their fielding, and when it comes to 2nd basemen, fielding is important.


Are you saying fielding at 3rd base isn't important?
Have you ever tried it? I can only imagine how quick those balls in the majors get on those guys
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:09 pm to
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Name me 6 better players from 94-98 than Craig Biggio.



lol.

griffey
frank thomas
jeff bagwell
Bonds
juan gonzalez
tony gwynn
piazza
shef
belle
arod
mcgwire
bernie williams
larry walker
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34603 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:10 pm to
frick u 'compiler' assholes. You're the same frickers who turn around and say Terrell Davis isn't HOF-worthy because he didn't play long enough. Biggio WAS good enough to play for 21 yrs.....and apparently no one came along who could beat him out of a job.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:12 pm to
he is to be complimented for playing so long, but when you start comparing him to other HOF'ers it becomes more of a focal point.

Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7036 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Name me 6 better players from 94-98 than Craig Biggio.


Albert Belle
Bonds
Frank Thomas
Piazza
Bagwell
Griffey
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Albert Belle
Bonds
Frank Thomas
Piazza
Bagwell
Griffey


No
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:18 pm to
Belle finished top 3 in MVP 3xs during that 5 year period. Lead AL in total bases 3 times. Slugging twice. HRs once. RBI twice.

Has Biggio lead the league in any relevant stat, ever?



Bagwell won an MVP during that 5 year period and finished 3rd another season. He was the best player on the team biggio played for.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7036 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

quote:
Albert Belle
Bonds
Frank Thomas
Piazza
Bagwell
Griffey


No



did you even watch ball back then? Belle was the most feared hitter in the American League back then...
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71968 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 2:24 pm to
Albert Belle '94-'98

90/36/101
121/50/126
124/48/148
90/30/116
113/49/152

In that time, he led the league in these cats during a season:

total bases x3
runs
doubles
home runs
RBI x2
slg% x2
OPS

Also led the league in RBI in '93.
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