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Leaving Early / Miles - Player Relationship
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:22 pm
Generally the players love Miles and would do anything for the guy. Most say he's a father figure. So why have many of the underclassmen on the fence the last couple years choose not to come back and play for them.
I see it as this; they see Miles in 2 forms.
1. Les Miles (Head Football Coach)
2. Les Miles (The Person)
I believe they would do anything Les Miles (The Person) asked them to do, but they do not feel Les Miles (Head Football Coach) can do anymore for their careers at this point. Guys like Mingo and Sam are ready, no one can do more for them, Minter is borderline, but the rest will be mid draft picks to not even getting selected and they want out, this goes back to Shep last year.
It’s pretty alarming that this is going on at this high of a rate; it appears at this point this program doesn’t have much to offer juniors who may be NFL ready.
I see it as this; they see Miles in 2 forms.
1. Les Miles (Head Football Coach)
2. Les Miles (The Person)
I believe they would do anything Les Miles (The Person) asked them to do, but they do not feel Les Miles (Head Football Coach) can do anymore for their careers at this point. Guys like Mingo and Sam are ready, no one can do more for them, Minter is borderline, but the rest will be mid draft picks to not even getting selected and they want out, this goes back to Shep last year.
It’s pretty alarming that this is going on at this high of a rate; it appears at this point this program doesn’t have much to offer juniors who may be NFL ready.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:24 pm to TheEye
How many more of these threads are going to be started?
Ill set the over/under at 4 for the rest of the day.
Ill take the over.
Ill set the over/under at 4 for the rest of the day.
Ill take the over.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:24 pm to TheEye
If you had the chance to leave college at 20 years old and make millions, would you stay?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:24 pm to TheEye
Thanks, I've been waiting to get your opinion on this.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:25 pm to TheEye
most of these guys are going to get picked early. that's good for the program. talented kids who want to get nfl ready will want to come to LSU.
the real problem is the high picks aren't coming from the offense. If there is one position where you need to go early, it's running back. their careers are short. unless you've got a chance to get into the 1st round by playing another year, might as well go.
the real problem is the high picks aren't coming from the offense. If there is one position where you need to go early, it's running back. their careers are short. unless you've got a chance to get into the 1st round by playing another year, might as well go.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:25 pm to TheEye
Honestly, why would they stay? Most of the guys who are turning pro have nothing to gain from staying. Only Logan and Simon are probably making bad choices. Ware and Ford are getting passed up on depth chart by freshman anyway. Everyone else will be starting on Sundays. So staying to risk your career makes no sense at all.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:26 pm to King of New Orleans
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If you had the chance to leave college at 20 years old and make millions, would you stay?
If he had the chance to leave Popeye's to go to Church's for an extra 50 cents an hour he would leap at it.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:27 pm to TheEye
You also need to remember that payscales have changed in the NFL. So upper first round money isn't as drastically different as it was in the past to other draft picks.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:28 pm to TheEye
Les looks out for them. He will tell them leaving early is best if it is in fact best for them.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:31 pm to TheEye
Miles wants to develop all of his players, whether that be to a college degree or to the NFL (or both). The more players he gets drafted, the better recruiting is. Top talent generally wants to play early and get to the NFL ASAP.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:33 pm to kevg33
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Honestly, why would they stay? Most of the guys who are turning pro have nothing to gain from staying. Only Logan and Simon are probably making bad choices. Ware and Ford are getting passed up on depth chart by freshman anyway. Everyone else will be starting on Sundays. So staying to risk your career makes no sense at all.
No no no, it's coaching. The only possible reason they are leaving is because of coaching.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:42 pm to TheEye
I agree with every point you guys made. But they seems to be a bigger turnover at LSU than most schools.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:47 pm to SabiDojo
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Les looks out for them. He will tell them leaving early is best if it is in fact best for them.
This
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:50 pm to TheEye
The best coaches in the country lose underclassmen every year. Its probably rare for a player to return or leave based on the coach and the coach alone.
Les has issues as a coach but this is not one of them.
Les has issues as a coach but this is not one of them.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:01 pm to SabiDojo
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Les looks out for them. He will tell them leaving early is best if it is in fact best for them.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:09 pm to Jay Quest
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The best coaches in the country lose underclassmen every year.
Bama's junior studs are leaving?
Texas A&M junior studs are leaving?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:14 pm to TheEye
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choose not to come back and play for them.
Money..
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:17 pm to TheEye
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Guys like Mingo and Sam are ready, no one can do more for them, Minter is borderline, but the rest will be mid draft picks to not even getting selected
Umm wow...Logan mid round to not drafted??... are you kidding me? Reid not drafted??...guys will both be 1-2 round picks...i would say those guys should leave.
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