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How does Gary Bettman still have a job?

Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:29 pm
He has presided over 2 disastrous lockouts. He got a shite TV deal for the league. Hockey is in far worse shape as a brand now than it was 20 years or so ago.

Say Goodell sucks all you want but the NFL is stronger than ever and hockey is irrelevant.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 12:30 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:30 pm to
i thought the owners won the last lockout pretty handily, which gives him some backing

*ETA: "i thought" means based on memory, as i don't have an opinion as to who won
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Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:31 pm to
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i thought the owners won the last lockout pretty handily


they did, but do the ends justify the means with hockey weaker in the long run?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:33 pm to
i'm going to assume that since there have been 2 lockouts in recent memory, the owners just enjoy flexing that muscle

in terms of the lockouts, i think GB is just doing as he's told
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:35 pm to
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Say Goodell sucks all you want but the NFL is stronger than ever



In spite of Roger.

anyone could have taken over control of the NFL and done fine. Honestly, I see changes he's made and planning on making really hurting the league in the years to come.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:36 pm to
He may be taking care of the owners in negotiations, but the overall health of the league seems to be diminishing big time since he took over. But the owners and that douche are so arrogant that they think the fans will keep coming back.

NHL needs to let steroids in so they can have a 250 goal scorer one season and bring in some casual fans.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Honestly, I see changes he's made and planning on making really hurting the league in the years to come.


The first Super Bowl played in Europe or Mexico is going to be a disaster.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:38 pm to
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but the overall health of the league seems to be diminishing big time since he took over.

just as goodell took over a money maker, the NHL is going the opposite direction. i don't know if it's GB's fault

quote:

NHL needs to let steroids in so they can have a 250 goal scorer one season

the NHL is largely a skill-based league, so i don't see how they'd help scoring. if anything they'd help defense
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:42 pm to
holy shite he wants to do a Super Bowl in a foreign country?



man... regular season games are bad enough but that would be ridiculous.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:43 pm to
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NHL needs to let steroids in so they can have a 250 goal scorer one season and bring in some casual fans.



Ovi or Geno on juice
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:45 pm to
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the NHL is largely a skill-based league, so i don't see how they'd help scoring. if anything they'd help defense



165 m.p.h. slapshot.
Posted by BigBoyTiger
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:47 pm to
The NHL is an unsustainable business model. Attendance in most places sucks and player salaries are out of control. Owners lose money hand over fist.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:08 pm to
Plus owners give out crazy contracts
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:10 pm to
nothing infuriates me more than owners complaining about player salaries when they hand out the huge contracts willingly
Posted by ironsides
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:11 pm to
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NHL needs to let steroids in so they can have a 250 goal scorer one season and bring in some casual fans.


The NHL is the only pro sports league where roids are not illegal.

This lockout was needed. 70% of the teams are losing money or close to it. The league will be back if they can make it competitive.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:18 pm to
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The league will be back if they can make it competitive.


And they need a better tv deal. Maybe NBCsports will do a better job. Bring back National Hockey Night.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 1:20 pm
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:19 pm to
These owners needed saving from themselves, GB does that, seriously if I was an owner I'd keep him on payroll, tv money is going in the right direction, attendance in Canada is at capacity and i see 2-3 franchises going bye bye in the league...i view trimming dead wood as a plus though...
Posted by NHTIGER
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:27 pm to
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The NHL is an unsustainable business model. Attendance in most places sucks and player salaries are out of control. Owners lose money hand over fist.






The above statement appears to be in conflict with this:

"Following the 2004-05 NHL lockout the fans came back in droves. During the 2005-06 season 25 of the 30 teams had an increase in attendance from the 2003-04 season. Moreover, the average cost (tickets, concessions, parking, etc.) for a family of four rose from $256 in 2003-04, to $283 at the start of the 2007-08 campaign. The latest figures from Team Marketing Report, for 2011, show the average cost at $329, a 29% increase since the season before the 2004-05 lockout.

Thanks to the fans who continued to pour through the turnstiles, the value of the average NHL team has increased from $159 million in 2003, to $240 million last year, while the average salary for a hockey player has increased from $1.6 million to $2.4 million."

LINK /
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:30 pm to
Yeah, fans showed up after the last strike but most money comes from TV and their deal was shite.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:32 pm to
gate driven league at least up here
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