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re: How does Gary Bettman still have a job?

Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by Bravescd14
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2009
403 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:47 pm to
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The NHL is an unsustainable business model. Attendance in most places sucks and player salaries are out of control. Owners lose money hand over fist.


Tard alert
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:59 pm to
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gate driven league at least up here



Exactly.

Hockey is not a television-friendly sport in the same way that football or baseball are. The size of television contracts cannot be measured in the same manner. All of us who are hardcore hockey fans (watched my first Bruins game in 1958 at the old Boston Garden, listened to all the games on my small transistor radio, knew the names of most of the players in the NHL at that time because it was easy with just six teams!) know that watching hockey in person involves watching the entire ice area, and not just following the puck, as TV does. Over the decades, I have turned dozens of people into hockey fans simply be getting them to a game in person one time. Hard to make new fans via television alone. Many football fans would just as soon sit in their recliner in their living room and watch an NFL game and get to see every other play on instant replay. Hockey, by contrast, is best enjoyed live, especially considering the speed and continuity and sound of the action, which minimize the usefulness and impact of instant replay. That's why 50% of NHL revenue is ticket-based, and why the NHL will never get the kind of television deal that we would like, no matter who is Commissioner.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78219 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:05 pm to
The day the old ESPN contract died, the League was doomed. The Players have been operating under the false assumption that anybody other than the die-hards give a damn. And this periodic myth that rolls out about a single player recapturing interest in the sport is folly- "so and so will get everybody watching". They just need to focus on the markets they are in, negotiate something eventually with ESPN that is meaningful and stop pretending they are more than a niche sport outside their core cities.

I'm just jazzed to be able to watch Hockey Night in Canada again. It is not possible to express how great that will be.
Posted by HumbleNinja
Ann Arbor
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:51 pm to
Gary Bettman is a little troll. Screw that POS.

Signed, Red Wings fan.
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3111 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 9:45 am to
Growing up in the south I always had almost zero interest in hockey. I tried to watch a few games over the years and found it to be dreadful.

When I lived in DC some friends invited me to a Caps game. I figured I would check it out and it was a ton of fun! I still can't watch it on TV, but it is a great sport to go see live.

It is still a tough sell in the south: most people don't play growing up and it is hard to convert someone into a fan based on tv. But if I lived in a city with an NHL team I'd absolutely support them.
Posted by HumbleNinja
Ann Arbor
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 10:00 am to
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I figured I would check it out and it was a ton of fun! I still can't watch it on TV, but it is a great sport to go see live.



Unfortunately this is the same sentiment that holds true to all casual fans. I understand though because when you are at the arena and watching the game you can really feel the energy and enjoy the atmosphere.

I've had the pleasure of growing up in Metro Detroit and have been numerous Red Wings' games and there is not much that beats a playoff game atmosphere in Hockeytown.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 10:30 am to
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The NHL is an unsustainable business model. Attendance in most places sucks and player salaries are out of control. Owners lose money hand over fist.

Outside of a few cities (READ: Sun Belt), the NHL has better attendance than the NBA. The NHL's problems are not attendance, but TV. And I have little sympathy for owners who cry poverty after handing out huge contracts. "Help me from wasting money!"

The NHL's problem is that it is not a war among players and owners, but small market teams (the Sun Belt) versus large market teams. Since they can't figure out a proper way to distribute the money amongst themselves, they just take it out on the players. The problem is that the Coyotes are unsustainable and the Rangers are rich as hell.

I like having hockey in my town, but it might be time to give up on the South. Everybody below the Mason Dixon line can root for the Caps or the Blues (though I think Carolina might be sustainable).
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66871 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 10:48 am to
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When I lived in DC some friends invited me to a Caps game. I figured I would check it out and it was a ton of fun! I still can't watch it on TV, but it is a great sport to go see live.



The regular season games on tv are tough for me to get in to as a fan. But I love the NHL playoffs. The consistent level of intensity in the NHL postseason is unmatched in other sports IMO.
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4282 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 10:57 am to
I think hockey would be better off taking a little less money on their next tv contract to get back onto ESPN and back into mainstream sports. Even the Stanley Cup wasn't on basic cable last year other than a few games, and I think people would watch if the sport was more accessible. I went to Brass games back when they were still in existence and it was always a great time. If more people could watch, it would probably pick up fans and help the health of hockey.
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 11:00 am
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