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dallastiger55 
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| need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:39 pm)
ok heres the deal. been with current company over 7 years and its not a bad job, just very comfortable and basically at the top of the line without having to move across country which isnt an option.
got a call today from our direct competitor asking if i were interested in my same position but with them. said the other guy is moving for a promotion. the pay would be about 30-40k more per year and id basically be handling the same exact accounts.
heres my question and i really would like some sound advice- would you leave to work for your direct competitor and handle the same accouts? would that be weird?
i dont make that much money so 30-40k extra is a pretty big difference. id still get to office from home and benefits would be better. he said to think about it and call him on Monday. what do you think? like i said i like my current role and company, its just that their isnt any room for advancement where im staying.
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Im4datigers
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:41 pm to dallastiger55)
That kind of raise plus no room for advancement - sounds like a no brainer to me. Take the money and run.
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NaturalBeam
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:44 pm to dallastiger55)
More money, better benefits, and room for advancement - pretty easy decision here IMO...
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prostyleoffensetime 
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:45 pm to Im4datigers)
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That kind of raise plus no room for advancement - sounds like a no brainer to me. Take the money and run.
Yeah. 30-40k to do the exact same thing you're doing now? Weird or not, I'd be all over that.
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bryso 
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:48 pm to dallastiger55)
It's not a red sox going to play for the Yankees.. It's the business world people understand... If the potential company is as stable as your current I wouldn't see the problem...
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Blakely Bimbo 
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:48 pm to dallastiger55)
Just make sure that you did not sign any type of non compete clause when you were hired on to your present job.
That is too large a wage difference to turn down if you will be doing the same job. If you are like other account managers, you probably have a great relationship with your customers and you would not be leaving them.
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LSU1018
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 8:55 pm to Blakely Bimbo)
Yea the weirdest thing is that you wouldn't have a non compete in this situation
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dallastiger55
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:10 pm to LSU1018)
Yeah but I've spent 7 years selling against their product. You think my accounts would understand if I flipped?
I make 55k plus up to 23 bonus<been averaging 10k per year)
He said my pay would be 75k base plus uncapped commission. Average is 100k
My territory should be a little bigger but only one overnight per month.
This post was edited on 1/4 at 9:12 pm
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LSURussian
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:28 pm to dallastiger55)
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Yeah but I've spent 7 years selling against their product. You think my accounts would understand if I flipped?
This was my first thought when I read your OP.
You need to figure out how you would explain to all of your accounts why buying from your new company is the right thing to do after all those years of you telling them it would be the wrong thing to do.
Were you lying to them all those years or were you just wrong all those years? Either way it would not inspire confidence in you by your existing clients.
Of course if your current company's products have declined in quality or customer support has declined, etc., and you could not continue to support them, well, maybe that would be a valid reason for you to change employers.
Otherwise, you're just going to look like a mercenary.
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dallastiger55
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:31 pm to LSURussian)
Thanks Russian. That's my fear. One good thing is I've never bad mouthed their product as I actually think its very good
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fontell 
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:04 pm to dallastiger55)
Sales reps who flip vastly overestimate their ability to pull accounts with them. Some will go with u sure, but lots more will seek the least risky move , usually staying loyal to the current company.Make sure your new employer isn't just interested in your short-term ability to flip only these accounts. What about new account growth, etc....
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Spankum
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/5/13 at 12:42 pm to dallastiger55)
first off, $30K to $40K increse is life changing money and can't be ignored without a damn good reason...
my question is, how can one company pay you that much more for doing the same work and selling roughly the same product to the same people?...either you are bieng badly undercut by your current company or the other company is exaggerating at your earning potential...
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GetBackToWork
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/5/13 at 1:59 pm to dallastiger55)
Here's a flip side.
Depending upon your role with the client, they may be "buying" you as well. If there is a customer service/relationship component, or if the sales process require a lot of know how, customization, or involvement, I never think of that person as just a "salesman". They are a partner in the process to getting what I need.
I've been on both sides of the fence, and unless you're scooping ice cream or serving fries, a good sales person does a lot more than sell a product.
If the products are of similar quality, and are backed after the sale by good support, you have nothing to hide or be uncomfortable about. Just tell people the move was good for you at this time in your career, and you feel good about their products.
Case in point. I buy a particular brand of car. The lease deals, turn in, and new acquisition can have a lot of play that are greatly aided by a sales person who knows the ropes and advocates aggressively. If they suddenly switched to the other major comparable make, there is a good chance I'd probably end up in that brand. I've literally never had a car salesperson work so hard for me, and I've bought a lot of cars. This person even buys my kids birthday presents. You think I would turn around and say, "oh, you must have been lying to me all these years." Some might I guess, but the right sales person becomes part of the product.
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dallastiger55
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/5/13 at 2:08 pm to GetBackToWork)
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just traded my wife's 2011 explorer. it left her in baton rouge because of a fan motor relay. she never got over it.
good question and yes my company is vastly underpaying. these are two VERY large companies that everyones heard of. think in terms of ford vs chevy (those arent the companies)
this new job has a larger territory and they require a lot more experience to which i have. my company is usually more of entry level for my position.
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GetBackToWork
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/5/13 at 2:30 pm to dallastiger55)
I think you have this thread mixed up with another on the board about cars.
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Sheep 
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/5/13 at 2:31 pm to dallastiger55)
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basically at the top of the line without having to move across country which isnt an option
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said the other guy is moving for a promotion.
Seems like there is something to be learned here...
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11thACR
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/14/13 at 7:22 pm to dallastiger55)
What % of total comp is the 30-40K ?
Are these customers married to you or your current employer ? Would they or could they
do anything unusal to block these customers from
your new employer ?
What industry ? How stable ?
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El Josey Wales
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| re: need some advice for a job change (Posted on 1/14/13 at 7:41 pm to Im4datigers)
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That kind of raise plus no room for advancement - sounds like a no brainer to me. Take the money and run.
+1
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