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TheWalrus 
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| Mike McCoy and the coordinator fallacy (Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:59 pm)
Why is it every time team X has a good offense or defense, that coordinator always seems to be a head coaching candidate? I understand when he has done it consistently and overachieved based on talent, but would anyone even think of interviewing this guy if Peyton Manning didn't join Denver? He's a 40-year-old with no head coaching experience. It was the same with Josh McDaniels, Charlie Weis, etc. Just because the Patriots had good offenses, these guys got prestigious head coaching jobs. Gary Crowton can be the OC with Tom Brady and the Pats would average 30 points a game.
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wildtigercat93
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| re: Mike McCoy and the coordinator fallacy (Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:27 am to TheWalrus)
Its the logical next step up the coaching latter. How else would you get coaches besides recycling the same guys around the league? For all those failed head coaches, their are plenty successful ones that were coordinators.
They choose them because they what an improvement or emphasis in that area of the coaches expertise and think that coach can lead the team to similar success that they had at the previous job. Nothing illogical about that.
Also McCoy was pretty impressive as a coordinator with a TE playing QB last season, or as impressive as he could be.
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floridatigah
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| re: Mike McCoy and the coordinator fallacy (Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:25 am to TheWalrus)
You're an idiot. McCoy almost got the Miami job last year and turned down multiple other interviews. He was the QB coach in Carolina when they went to the SB and turned Orton into a borderline pro bowler in Denver as OC. Then completely turned over the offense when Tebow took over and had the number one rushing offense. His candidacy has nothing to do with Peyton, I would take him over any of the other coordinator candidates.
edit: Would be a great fit for Cam in Carolina if he doesn't get the Chicago job
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craigbiggio
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| re: Mike McCoy and the coordinator fallacy (Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:41 am to TheWalrus)
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It was the same with Josh McDaniels, Charlie Weis, etc. Just because the Patriots had good offenses, these guys got prestigious head coaching jobs. Gary Crowton can be the OC with Tom Brady and the Pats would average 30 points a game.
The Patriots offense in 2008 (under McDaniels) finished 5th overall and 8th in scoring. Tom Brady played one game that year.
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Macavity92
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| re: Mike McCoy and the coordinator fallacy (Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:50 am to TheWalrus)
Saints fans would tell you you that Sean Payton worked out ok. So did Bill Cowher, Chuck Knoll, Tom Landry, Vince Lombardi, Mike Holmgren and others. There may be something to this coordinator thing.
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ThisWayChad
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| re: Mike McCoy and the coordinator fallacy (Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:58 pm to TheWalrus)
as opposed to unsuccessful coordinators or retread HCs who have failed elsewhere?
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boogiewoogie1978 
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| re: Mike McCoy and the coordinator fallacy (Posted on 1/2/13 at 1:35 pm to ThisWayChad)
Manning is the best coordinator on that staff
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D011ahbi11
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| re: Mike McCoy and the coordinator fallacy (Posted on 1/3/13 at 4:23 am to floridatigah)
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turned Orton into a borderline pro bowler in Denver as OC
I'd give the credit for that one to McDaniels. Because as soon as Josh left Orton went right back to shite.
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