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| Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 1:31 pm)
RGR - Sturm Ruger and Company is the one thats of interest to me. They just paid a huge pre-tax cliff dividend but have been paying an increasing quarterly dividend for the past 3 years after a 3 year hiatus from paying a dividend. despite losing about 15% over the past few days, it's still up +20% on the year.
I'm going to give it a few more days, but if it keeps dropping on just rumor, I'm going to dive in.
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LSUTOM07
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:12 pm to C)
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but if it keeps dropping on just rumor
What's the rumors? I haven't been keeping up with it.
I would imagine that if there continues to be talks about stricter gun laws, gun sales will go up before the go down... 
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C
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:24 pm to LSUTOM07)
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What's the rumors?
I guess it shouldn't be called rumors; just reactionary sentiment after the shooting last week.
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gun sales will go up before the go down
That's my guess.
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LSUTOM07
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:55 pm to C)
Well I just jumped in. The stock will probably go down a bit more before it goes up, but I think gun sales will go through the roof when something is done in Washington. I don't think there will ever be a ban on handguns (just limited magazine sizes) so I don't see these companies struggling long term. I believe this is a good entry into RGR and SWHC.
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Dan
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 4:35 pm to C)
I just came her to post this same question. Smith & Wesson down 10% on it's largest trading day ever? I don't expect these prices to jump back up in a hurry but I feel they'll slowly recoup much of today's pps drop as the sentiment cools down in the next few months.
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gatorsimz 
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:03 pm to Dan)
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Smith & Wesson down 10%
should be around 8.43/share at 9.8 P/E and .86 EPS. closed at 7.79, almost 8% off that. its P/E is lower than the industry average at 13.7 so there's potential for the stock price to increase a bit. wouldn't be surprised to see it jump back up to around $9 by the end of the year especially if there's a debt deal.
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TJG210
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:47 pm to gatorsimz)
How badly would they be hurt if they go back to the Clinton Automatic ban? Do they have much exposure in that area?
(Sorry I don't know much about guns)
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djmicrobe
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:55 pm to C)
Stupid people. Gun stocks should go up because you are the first line of defense before the cops get there.
Everyone innocent person needs a gun. The criminals already have them.
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foshizzle
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:02 pm to C)
Totally depends on legislation, everyone is just guessing at this point. My guess is that shotgun and handgun makers will do fine, but that is just a guess and I won't bet any money on it.
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TheTigerZone
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:29 pm to foshizzle)
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Stupid people. Gun stocks should go up because you are the first line of defense before the cops get there.
Everyone innocent person needs a gun. The criminals already have them.
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LSUTOM07
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/19/12 at 11:25 am to C)
Smith and Wesson up 8% and Ruger up 5%. Nice rebound after yesterday
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stendulkar
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/19/12 at 12:24 pm to C)
Anybody have a list of gun stocks other than the two mentioned above?
Also are Ruger and Smith and Wessson still good buys @ today's rates despite their rally from yesterday's lows?
Lastly, if the automatic weapons ban comes back, will it affect RGR and SWHC? Like the other poster asked, what is their exposure to automatic guns? Or so these guys only make hand guns?
This post was edited on 12/19 at 12:31 pm
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gatorsimz
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/19/12 at 12:41 pm to LSUTOM07)
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Smith and Wesson up 8%
Called it.
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should be around 8.43/share at 9.8 P/E and .86 EPS. closed at 7.79, almost 8% off that.
Trading around 8.49 right now
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kevv824
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/19/12 at 3:36 pm to C)
Ruger way up since Obama
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jso0003 
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/19/12 at 8:20 pm to gatorsimz)
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Called it.
I read your post last night and bought in at 8.03 this morning after doing some research, got out at 8.40 this afternoon
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gatorsimz
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/19/12 at 9:48 pm to jso0003)
Nice
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bryso 
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/19/12 at 11:04 pm to stendulkar)
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automatic weapons ban comes back
The lack of gun knowledge in this country is why everyone is so scared of them.....
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jso0003
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/19/12 at 11:54 pm to bryso)
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The lack of gun knowledge in this country is why everyone is so scared of them.....
Politicians are far too busy with partisan ideals/lobbyist funds to be concerned with petty things like knowledge.
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matthew25 
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 12/20/12 at 4:47 pm to jso0003)
Have you looked at Olin? They are building a huge plant in Oxford. 1000 employees per their initial press release. Haven't read anything lately.
They are getting rid of the union they have in the north.
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LSUTOM07
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| re: Gun stocks taking a beating... when to buy? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 8:57 am to C)
Anyone have any thoughts on when the guns stocks will hit their peak? I'm currently up 28% in RGR with earning to be released late February. I have a gut feeling the stock will get a nice lift after the earnings are released but a lot can happen in a month.
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