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TN Bhoy  USA Fan Philly Member since Apr 2010 33584 posts

| The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:15 pm)
Starting in 2014-2015
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A football Super League featuring the best teams from Russia and Ukraine could be launched in 2014, top Russia football officials speculate. The idea of creating something similar to ice hockey’s KHL in football was first voiced by Gazprom CEO Aleksey Miller and it seems to be gaining popularity among Russia’s top football officials. The replacement for the Russian Premier League is primarily aimed at attracting more interest in the competition and consequently increasing the clubs’ revenue to help them meet new UEFA financial fair play rules. CSKA Moscow president Evgeny Giner suggested the league’s first season could be played 2014-15 at the earliest. Representatives of Zenit St. Petersburg, Anzhi Makhachkala and the Russian Premier League also backed the plans. UEFA “has said it will allow the unification of championships,” Giner stated, adding he expected the European governing body to allow the countries involved to keep their current quotas in European competitions. “We need to make it so there is fan interest, sponsor interest, TV interest,” Giner also stressed. A study group is expected be set up by the end of the year to design a format for the new league and decide which countries to include.
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WarSlamEagle  Auburn Fan Balboa Towers Member since Sep 2011 13174 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:19 pm to TN Bhoy)
The Kontinental Football League?
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Tweezy west of east Member since Apr 2008 10461 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:30 pm to WarSlamEagle)
Soviet super soccer sociation
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OleWar  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2008 532 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:15 pm to TN Bhoy)
Wow, thats big. That should almost be on the political board.
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TheIrishFro  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Aug 2003 Member since Aug 2010 3179 posts
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| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:21 pm to TN Bhoy)
I thought ukrainians didnt like russians? or is it like americans and canadians, where we accept were pretty similar, but canada is still just americas hat. suck it LSUcanfan
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TN Bhoy  USA Fan Philly Member since Apr 2010 33584 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:35 pm to TheIrishFro)
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I thought ukrainians didnt like russians?
Depends on the Ukrainian. Catholic Ukrainians almost universally hate Russia. Orthodox Ukrainians are pretty mixed. Same with the non-religious.
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thenry712  Gonzaga Fan Zasullia, Ukraine Member since Nov 2008 13804 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:37 pm to TheIrishFro)
There a large Russian speaking minority in Ukraine, but Ukrainians are extremely proud of their independence from Russia. Ukrainians have a separate cultural identity and language from Russia. It would be a culturally abnormal move for the Ukrainian FA to agree to this merger.
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Dandy Lion  Iowa State Fan On a Horse Farm Member since Feb 2010 18506 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:38 pm to TN Bhoy)
I wouldn´t call it needed, I´d call it necessary. Makes great sense.
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OleWar  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2008 532 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 12:10 am to thenry712)
I can see even the most anti Russian Ukrainians supporting this move. For example Dynamo Kyiv and Spartak Moscow have one of the greatest rivalries in sport history. They are the top two winners of Soviet Cups and since the breakup have played much less regularly.
This post was edited on 12/15 at 12:12 am
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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 31529 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 3:40 am to TN Bhoy)
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Depends on the Ukrainian. Catholic Ukrainians almost universally hate Russia. Orthodox Ukrainians are pretty mixed. Same with the non-religious.
spot on, parts of the country dont even speak Ukrainian they speak Russian
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InThroughTheOutDore  Vanderbilt Fan Middle TN Member since Nov 2008 3058 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:07 am to Tweezy)
Ukranian Soviet Soccer Republic
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Keys Open Doors  Duke Fan Member since Dec 2008 19533 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 6:15 pm to TN Bhoy)
I wonder how they will decide which teams get an invite and how they do promotion/relegation. But with the Italian league losing momentum, this could be a top 3-5 league in Europe very soon.
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Dandy Lion  Iowa State Fan On a Horse Farm Member since Feb 2010 18506 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 6:21 pm to StraightCashHomey21)
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Catholic Ukrainians almost universally hate Russia
almost universally? 100%.
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Vicks Kennel Club  USA Fan In Spielman We Trust Member since Dec 2010 13003 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 7:05 pm to Keys Open Doors)
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But with the Italian league losing momentum, this could be a top 3-5 league in Europe very soon.
Russian League may be fairly close to top 5 in Europe right now.
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Tweezy west of east Member since Apr 2008 10461 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 7:19 pm to Vicks Kennel Club)
Uefa club/league rankings for this season So Russia is not quite in the top 5 but Ukraine is pretty close actually- that is if you think this ranking is any better than another arbitrary ranking of leagues
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LSUSOBEAST1  LSU Fan Member since Aug 2008 25912 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 7:20 pm to Keys Open Doors)
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this will be a top 3-5 league in Europe very soon.
FTFY
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Vicks Kennel Club  USA Fan In Spielman We Trust Member since Dec 2010 13003 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 8:02 pm to Tweezy)
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So Russia is not quite in the top 5 but Ukraine is pretty close actually- that is if you think this ranking is any better than another arbitrary ranking of leagues
Link does not work, but I believe they are both top 10. I prefer to use the TN Bhoy Coefficient. All Catholic-backed clubs are automatically better than non-Catholic football teams.
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Tweezy west of east Member since Apr 2008 10461 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 8:09 pm to Vicks Kennel Club)
Shit, will fix when not on my phone. Ukraine was like 6 and Russia was like 9, I can't remember. Spain 1 Germany 2 decent drop off then England smaller drop off to Italy and others. Does this work??
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WarSlamEagle  Auburn Fan Balboa Towers Member since Sep 2011 13174 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 8:15 pm to Tweezy)
Yeah, but here's the page I think you were referring to: LINK Spain 13.857 Germany 13.357 England 11.142 Italy 10.750 France 10.083 Ukraine 8.833 Portugal 8.750 Russia 7.083 Ukraine 6th, Russia a far 8th.
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Tweezy west of east Member since Apr 2008 10461 posts

| re: The creation of a joint Russian-Ukrainian league is awaiting UEFA approval (Posted on 12/15/12 at 8:18 pm to WarSlamEagle)
Ah nice, much easier to read. The other one just has the leagues further down the list. I just copied it from an article I read, didn't explore the site too much
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