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Draconian Sanctions  LSU Fan San Francisco 49ers Fan Member since Oct 2008 28517 posts
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| Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:42 pm)
was listening to BR radio in my car and he was on as a guest. Made a few interesting points. -Big Ten historically bad during his tenure, 5 loss team in the Rose Bowl this year. - Went 23-1 against the bottom four of the Big Ten, was under .500 against the other seven schools. -Recruiting classes ranked in the 50's -Wants to try to win games the same way Saban, Muschamp, Richt and Les do, which won't work at Arkansas because of the lack of talent in that state. Petrino's strength was the contrast with that style. -No experience whatsoever south of Manhattan, Kansas. Says comparisons to Saban and Urban Meyer are ridiculous because a) Saban is a once in a lifetime coach and b) Urban was at Florida which almost recruits itself unlike Arkansas who needs someone dynamic. I'm not sure I agree with him (I have been positive about the hire) but he did bring up some interesting points I hadn't thought of.
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j1897  Arkansas Fan Member since Nov 2011 469 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Agree agree agree. We might be irrelevant now. Oh well, I'll still watch our games. .
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oklahogjr  Arkansas State Fan The Corndog Capital of the world Member since Jan 2010 15600 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:46 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
I think this is way over blown. If he handles his staff well, which seems to be the focal point of this whole coaching hire anyways. He left wisky because they wouldn't pay their assistants enough to retain them, which as he stated does point towards him making good hires. He comes here takes a bump down from our orignal offer to get a bigger assitant coaching budget. Seems like he understands the importance of a competent staff which is the real key to recruiting.
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piggilicious  Arkansas Fan Member since Jan 2011 2553 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Heard him last night saying this- also made some smartass comment that sounded like he follows Clay Travis- that's all I needed to know to form my opinion of him.
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wmr  Arkansas Fan North of Dickson, South of Herman's Member since Mar 2009 15059 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
He has advantages here that he never had there as far as building a staff. We are closer to better recruiting areas than Wisconsin is. Now that I have had a reason to compare, I think Wisconsin was a tougher place to win at than most people realize. Time will tell. Staff will be key.
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oklahogjr  Arkansas State Fan The Corndog Capital of the world Member since Jan 2010 15600 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:50 pm to wmr)
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Now that I have had a reason to compare, I think Wisconsin was a tougher place to win at than most people realize.
The only person besides BB to win there was Barry alvarez.... he's referred to as a legend. BB has a better winning percentage.
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hogSS  Arkansas Fan Fayetteville, Arkansas Member since Oct 2008 1189 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
He was recruiting to fricking Wisconsin, That state produces like five 3 stars a year, If he hires some guys with southern ties (especially Texas ties) then he will be pulling in good classes here. He seems like a guy that recruits would like to play for.
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JohnnyBob  Arkansas Fan Blue Eye, AR Member since Aug 2012 812 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:59 pm to hogSS)
FIRE HIM NOW! OMG! Maybe we can get Tenn to take over his contract so we can track down Dooley or Chiz! WPS!
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JohnnyBob  Arkansas Fan Blue Eye, AR Member since Aug 2012 812 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:01 pm to JohnnyBob)
Oh shite I forgot, Clay Travis Blasts Arky Hire too. fricking Mayans need to pull the plug quick on the world!
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oklahogjr  Arkansas State Fan The Corndog Capital of the world Member since Jan 2010 15600 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:01 pm to JohnnyBob)
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FIRE HIM NOW! OMG! Maybe we can get Tenn to take over his contract so we can track down Dooley or Chiz! WPS!
actually DS doesn't seem like he's being a dick here. I prefer this DS to his previous posting style.
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PHXTigers  LSU Fan Arizona Member since Dec 2007 714 posts
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| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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-Wants to try to win games the same way Saban, Muschamp, Richt and Les do, which won't work at Arkansas because of the lack of talent in that state.
I didn't realize their is so many 4-5 star recruits in WISCONSIN! The dude made chicken salad with chicken poop up there. He is a very good coach and a good hire. Bookmark and come back after next season. 
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Draconian Sanctions  LSU Fan San Francisco 49ers Fan Member since Oct 2008 28517 posts
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| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:09 pm to PHXTigers)
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I didn't realize their is so many 4-5 star recruits in WISCONSIN! The dude made chicken salad with chicken poop up there.
Not competing against the same level of competition up there though, and when you look at his record breakdown he feats on the dreggs and struggles mightily against the mid to top level teams in that conference.
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Choctaw Hog  Arkansas Fan Member since Nov 2006 7339 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Thanks being so concerned about Arkansas' newest coach and taking time to post it some nobody's opinion about it. Who is Russ Mitchell and why should we as Arkansas fans care?
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oklahogjr  Arkansas State Fan The Corndog Capital of the world Member since Jan 2010 15600 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Not competing against the same level of competition up there though, and when you look at his record breakdown he feats on the dreggs and struggles mightily against the mid to top level teams in that conference.
He beats all the ones he's supposed to and then breaks slightly less than even on the good teams. Sounds pretty much like what petrino was doing here.
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RunningBlake  Arkansas Fan Member since Aug 2011 1282 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:49 pm to oklahogjr)
Agreed. Shoulda hired nutt
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Kickadawgitfeelsgood Lafayette LA Member since Nov 2005 7228 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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-Wants to try to win games the same way Saban, Muschamp, Richt and Les do, which won't work at Arkansas because of the lack of talent in that state.
Why can't he go get the same type lineman from out of state, like he did at Wiscy? Recruit to SEC. That hill ain't too high.
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Kickadawgitfeelsgood Lafayette LA Member since Nov 2005 7228 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:03 pm to RunningBlake)
Ed Orgeron was available
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Smoke Green  LSU Fan Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China Member since Apr 2005 3787 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:21 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood)
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Ed Orgeron
Kiff bumped Bebe from La-foosh to asst. HC today, or something like that. Bebe is living the red-bull dream on the WC.
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Hawgeye  Arkansas Fan tFlagship Brothel Member since Jun 2009 11279 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
That's pretty dumb of him to say. Most people think Petersen, Patterson, etc. are good hires, but those guys have gotten their coaching records against much, much weaker competition than most all bigger name coaches.
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Hubbhogg  Arkansas Fan meh Member since Dec 2010 10943 posts

| re: Russ Mitchell of collegefootballnews blasts Arky hire (Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
It's funny how much this hire seems to bother the LSU fanbase. Why are yall so insecure?
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