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Aren't there usually 4 Heisman finalists?

Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:41 am
Posted by LSUTil_iDie
Lawrenceville, GA
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:41 am
Was there nobody deserving of that 4th spot?


ETA: Braxton Miller should have gotten an invitation IMO
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Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:42 am to
I also thought 3 seemed low...it seems like there are usually 4 or even 5.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:42 am to
They usually cut it off where there is a wide split in the number of votes. Most of the time it's between 3 and 5.
Posted by memphstigers23
Fenway Pahk
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:42 am to
They only invite people that are close to winning, if one person is extremely behind the other top candidates they won't invite them to NY
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:42 am to
they send as many finalists as it takes to keep it respectable. they don't want to embarrass somebody at the end

usually there are 4-5...i can't remember 3
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:43 am to
There were 5 last year....Honey Blunter finished 5th in the race and he was in NYC
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:45 am to
quote:

There were 5 last year....Honey Blunter finished 5th in the race and he was in NYC


Which was total BS...he should have been top 2 for sure....maybe even won it.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:48 am to
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usually there are 4-5...i can't remember 3


2008 was the last time there were only 3.
Posted by SeattleTiger19
Member since Oct 2007
4537 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:56 am to
Not going to lie Teo is great but I would think for a defensive player to get it at this point you need something like punt returns on the resume as well.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2775 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:57 am to
Pretty sure there were only 3 invites when Troy Smith won it - Smith, McFadden, Quinn.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:11 am to
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Not going to lie Teo is great


He is an average top of the line LB. He has no business even being discussed for this award.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:11 am to
They can invite up to five finalists. But this year it was pretty clear that there were only three with a legit shot (JFF, Te'o, and Klein) so that's all they invited.

(And you could argue that Klein was questionable after the Baylor game)
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:14 am to
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Not going to lie Teo is great but I would think for a defensive player to get it at this point you need something like punt returns on the resume as well.


After HB7 didn't get it last year I don't see how any defensive player will ever get it.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:21 am to
No way Te'o deserves it more then HB7 did last year. He's a great college LB, but that's it. He doesn't produce anything for the team other then a few tackles. He has 103 recorded tackles this year which is less then his previous two years. His 7 Interceptions aren't even best in the nation either. How he got invited is a joke...
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:22 am to
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2008 was the last time there were only 3


All three QBs too. Very rare to have a group of finalists all play the same position.
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5075 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:28 am to
Te'o is in a much weaker group than Mathieu. Mathieu had RG3 and Richardson. This Heisman class is just not as flashy or stacked.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30851 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:31 am to
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After HB7 didn't get it last year I don't see how any defensive player will ever get it.


Because he wasn't even the best player at his position on his team. He definitely had the big play factor which is what got him to NY but he finished about where he should.

I like ND and Te'o but it's absurd he is a legit candidate to win this award.

Manziel is the only legit Heisman caliber player this year.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142023 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:31 am to
T''''eo is so awesome he takes up two spaces
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:33 am to
Tyrann Mathieu also lead his entire team in tackles from a non high productive tackling position (cb)

Tyrann's team was undefeated in the SEC.

He literally won about 3 games because of his impact in big time games.

He had ff, TDS, etc and he even missed an entire game.. And he still didn't win it. Teo doesn't deserve it any more.

Didn't the bulk of Teo's ints come in 2 games against really horrid teams, and then I know he had 1 against a fresh qb making his first start..
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:38 am to
They just need to make the Heisman an offensive award. There really are no defenders who deserve it as much as the Qbs/Rbs. Only way a defender should get mentioned is if they also play an offensive position and actually make an impact.

When is the last time anyone on defense won the NFL Mvp? Taylor in '86 is the only one I remember. Fact is offensive players are just more valuable.
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