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LSUSOBEAST1 
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| Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:29 pm)
In a division that just finished the regular season with 3 10-win teams, Arky and Auburn needed to make perfect hires. Neither one of them did that. LSU, Alabama and A&M will headline the division for years. LSU had a perfect season last year, Alabama is going to their 2nd straight NC and A&M has a Heisman finalist. How will Arky and Auburn out-muscle programs who already have a stranglehold on Louisiana, Texas and Alabama? How will they regain their footing in the hardest division in football?
They both needed big names. Dynamic, inspiring leaders with tremendous recruiting skills. Coaches who could shake up the division and get the most out of their current players. Nationally prominent coaches who have had significant tangible success. Progressive coaches who will bring sustainable, tactical success.
I'll at least give props to Arkansas for hiring someone who I thought was above their ceiling. That won't make recruiting any easier for him though. But Auburn? Oh Auburn. Auburn settled and their next 3-5 years will reflect that.
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GoHoGsGo06 
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:32 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
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They both needed big names. Dynamic, inspiring leaders with tremendous recruiting skills
Wisky been pretty good over the last 5 years.quote:
Coaches who could shake up the division and get the most out of their current players.
considering his recruits at Wisky, he already does thisquote:
Nationally prominent coaches who have had significant tangible success.
3 BCS appearances?quote:
Progressive coaches who will bring sustainable, tactical success.
Again, Wisky has won the most (or close to top) Big 10 games over the last few years.quote:
How will they regain their footing in the hardest division in football?
Good coaching.
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Beer Bryant 
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:33 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
I think they're both good hires. We shall see.
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bamagreycoat
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:35 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
Yea i agree 100% man. I'm truly shocked by both hires. It's gonna get interesting if Petrino is successful where ever he ends up. If he tears it up it'll be funny as shite. If Malzahn hires a good DC, they'll be fine.
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stapuffmarshy 
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:35 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
Gus makes no sense, point blank.
it's not like his offense was dynamic without Cam, shite LSU rolled that crap without Cam
Bielema is interesting. Don't know if it works because of recruiting
but the style if he brings from Wisky does work SEC wise. Top tier teams do what LSU/Bama do in this conference
we'll see. a little surprising, sure the pigs hate it
oh and 85-20 in the SEC>>>>>>>>>68-32 in the Big Ten
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AUCE05 
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:36 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
There's Saban (the best coach in the country). Then there's 2-3 outside if him that are consider great. You have to get what you can when you're looking. If I remember, Miles was so-so while at OSU. He turned out alright.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:39 pm to GoHoGsGo06)
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Good coaching.
Bielema is 2-4 in bowl games at Wisconsin. He runs an offense where he will have to out-recruit both Bama and LSU to even have marginal success in the West. He fits a few of the categories, but is still an odd fit. I gave props to Arkansas for getting him, but his success at Wisconsin is in large part proportional to the state of the conference the past few seasons. He's a good coach, but he isn't the right hire IMO.
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Beer Bryant
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:42 pm to stapuffmarshy)
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it's not like his offense was dynamic without Cam, shite LSU rolled that crap without Cam
Not really. Given what he had in 2009, he did pretty well. 2011 Chizik was handcuffing him, which is why he left.
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kywildcatfanone 
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:42 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
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Bielema and Gus are desperation hires
FIFY
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Maize&BlueTiger
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:42 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
Another coach was hired some years ago from a Big 10 school that had performed only decently, in order to try and resurrect a floundering SEC program with a rich history. As I recall, that worked out fairly well.
A coach can only do what the available talent permits him to do. Lighten up.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:45 pm to AUCE05)
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If I remember, Miles was so-so while at OSU. He turned out alright.
Miles is an exception. He didn't come into the West in the midst of its heyday. He was able to take advantage of an average division and establish a winning formula. frick, Alabama had a losing record the year after Miles joined LSU. Miles also inherited a pretty favorable situation after Saban left.
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GerryDinardo
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:46 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
The most questionable part of the Bielema hire for me is his established ability, or lack their of, to recruit Texas. I am not sure a Bielema hire does anything to get Arkansas in the door on some recruits from the metroplex or east Texas. Some Arkansas fans might disagree, but IMO recruiting this area is the biggest single factor to Arkansas' sustained success. He can overcome this with some great assistant hires, but it will take a lot.
So he better be ready to see the SEC style recruiting he bad mouthed nearly 12 months ago because it's coming whether he's ready or not.
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Cincinnati Bowtie
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:47 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
Not that easy to get what you described.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:48 pm to Maize&BlueTiger)
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Another coach was hired some years ago from a Big 10 school that had performed only decently, in order to try and resurrect a floundering SEC program with a rich history. As I recall, that worked out fairly well.
If you're talking about Saban to LSU, you need to get a clue.
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PHXTigers
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:48 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
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Neither one of them did that.
Neither one coached a game in SEC and you already labeling them failures?
Beilema is a very good coach, and the jury still out on Gus. Both may work out well. 
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VerlanderBEAST 
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:48 pm to bamagreycoat)
Gus Malzahn is one of the best offensive minds I have ever seen he's going to wreck the SEC.
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stapuffmarshy
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:49 pm to GerryDinardo)
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So he better be ready to see the SEC style recruiting he bad mouthed nearly 12 months ago because it's coming whether he's ready or not.
that too, will be used against him
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:50 pm to GerryDinardo)
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So he better be ready to see the SEC style recruiting he bad mouthed nearly 12 months ago because it's coming whether he's ready or not.
Yep.
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BrerTiger
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:55 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
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Arky and Auburn needed to make perfect hires
Wut?
ESPN seems to think it was quite the coup for Arky to hire away one of the Big Ten's top coaches.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Bielema and Gus are puzzling hires (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:01 pm to BrerTiger)
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Wut?
Do you know anything about football? If so, you will know both programs needed perfect hires if they have any intentions of being relevant in the West in the next 3-5 years.
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