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Stingray 
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| Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:15 pm)
I performed a t test comparing the penalties called on LSU and Alabama during the regular season over the ten years from 2003 to 2012. I took the data of penalties each game from the official LSU and Alabama sites. Over this period each team played 118 games.
LSU's penalties per year goes like this: 89, 73, 74, 76, 76, 104, 74, 91, 67, 89.
Alabama's penalties per year: 48, 48, 63, 63, 48, 55, 70, 70, 66, 69.
LSU's average penalties per game is 6.8898.
Alabama's average penalties per game is 5.0847.
Using the t test comparing all the games, I get a p value of 0.0001! This means that there is certainly a difference between the penalties of these two teams. The important question is why?
I see two possible explanations.
1. Alabama is a more disciplined team. I find this to be highly unlikely as they would have to be more disciplined consistently of over a ten year period which included multiple different coaches on each team, including one coach who coached at both schools!
2. There is a bias for Alabama. This is much more likely. It would not take a conspiracy, just the subtle bias that is a result of the current structure of the SEC head offices. Also seems likely when we look at the other areas where Alabama seems to have created an advantage for itself.
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Elleshoe 
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:16 pm to Stingray)
get a new hobby.
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CQQ
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:17 pm to Stingray)
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CreoleGumbo
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:17 pm to Stingray)
go on...... 
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YouAre8Up
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:17 pm to Stingray)
wow..... really? Do you see men in black suits following you around also? 
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Big Lake
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:18 pm to Stingray)
Do you have ISDS tomorrow too?
shite like this needs to stop you are embarrassing us.
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BayouBandit24 
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:19 pm to Stingray)
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Meauxjeaux 
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:20 pm to Stingray)
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89
And if dumbarse JC Copeland doesn't get the personal foul, we have 88 and are in the BCSCG.
So there.
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MoreOrLes
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:22 pm to Stingray)
Of course its Biased towards bama.
Just find any coach or Oline player at any level and ask them if its possible to go a whole year without a holding call. Then tell them that bama did it in 09.
Hilarity or a perplexed look will ensue.
This post was edited on 12/4 at 2:25 pm
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FreddieMac
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:23 pm to BayouBandit24)
Interesting, This includes Non Saban years which would suggest its more bias than coaching given no one would say Shula was a coach that inspired discipline...
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228Tiger
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:23 pm to Stingray)
make it stop
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whomewhat
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:25 pm to Stingray)
It is amazing how much more disciplined Saban's teams became when he left LSU. If your numbers are correct he had more penalties in 2003 and 2004 at LSU than he's ever had Alabama. Likewise Shula, that legend of a coach had fewer penalties at Bama than LSU has ever had during the years you listed.
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Stingray
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:25 pm to MoreOrLes)
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Of course its Biased towards bama
I agree, but mention that to some LSU fans and they think you are a conspiracy nut. I thought some hard evidence might adjust their perspective.
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Baloo
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:26 pm to Stingray)
No, the presentation of objective data into the conversation only shows you are a conspiracy nut. Terrible catch-22. Either you're making it up or you're obsessed.
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:26 pm to Stingray)
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CptBengal 
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:28 pm to Stingray)
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I performed a t test comparing the penalties called on LSU and Alabama during the regular season over the ten years from 2003 to 2012. I took the data of penalties each game from the official LSU and Alabama sites. Over this period each team played 118 games.
awful method.
You should compare the penalties against the same teams using a mutivariate ANOVA with an auto-regressive error structure.
You probability value for the tail of 0.0001 seems absurd anyway. Did you use a 1 or two tailed test? What was your null hypothesis?
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GeauxTigerTM
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:28 pm to Stingray)
Hope you don't mind, but I'm gonna dump this here too. This breaks it down a little differently.
As you stated, it doesn't seem to matter who the coach is, what the team's record is, etc. BAMA gets penalized less BY FAR than LSU.
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whoisnickdoobs
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:28 pm to MoreOrLes)
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Ghostfacedistiller
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:31 pm to Stingray)
All games or just SEC games?
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harry coleman beast
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:31 pm to Stingray)
I've had enough
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