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LSU/Alabama vs Eastern teams

Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:54 pm
Posted by NOLATIGAH
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:54 pm
since I am home sick and have nothing else to do and i am tired of hearing how alabama has any easy eastern schedule, i decided to look into it. since 2000, the breakdown goes down like this"

UF: LSU 13, Bama 4
UT: Bama 13, LSU 6
Vandy: Bama 7 LSU 4
UK: LSU 6 Bama 3
USC: Bama 6 LSU 5
UGA: LSU 4 Bama 4
Mizzou: Bama 1

its only the permanent teams that really make the difference between the two.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26233 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

its only the permanent teams that really make the difference between the two


Pretty big difference, eh?

Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:56 pm to
It's a matter of the state of the program of the permanent opponents. Florida has been leaps and bounds ahead of UT for most of the past decade.

Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:57 pm to
It is the bridge years that is the problem. 2012 and 2013. The books got thrown out and Bama has been provided an overwhelmingly advantage in both years. Replace Uga with Mizz. Have more division home games than road games. Drop Uga and pick up Kentucky.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 2:58 pm
Posted by NOLATIGAH
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:58 pm to
if UT could hire good coaches there wouldnt be that big of a difference. Alabama has no control over that.
Posted by NOLATIGAH
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
3684 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:58 pm to
yes SBC. i understand that.
Posted by NOLATIGAH
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
3684 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:59 pm to
but with that even said SBC, the advantage is not that great.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61758 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:59 pm to
That's because there used to be a rotation. The 2012 and 2013 schedules had no rotation whatsoever. They were "bridge" years in which the SEC just threw together whatever they could.

Bama: Mizzou/Tennessee then Kentucky/Tennessee
LSU: South Carolina/Florida then UGA/Florida


These schedules were made within the last 12 months and it is well known the general expectations for all of those teams. Bama's team = teh suck. LSU's teams = top 10.
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:59 pm to
Of course over time it is even except the permanents. We had an established cycle until expansion. Permanents should be done away with as well.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

It is the bridge years that is the problem. 2012 and 2013. The books got thrown out and Bama has been provided an overwhelmingly advantage.


This^

The Bama homers in the office saw an easy way to pave Bama a path to a fricking dynasty and it's unfair bullshite. frick the SEC.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:00 pm to
Personally, I think the SEC needs to go a 9 game schedule to mitigate scheduling discrepancies anyway.

I don't like the fact that, with 7 teams each and an 8 game schedule, the West and East might as well be completely different conferences.
Posted by NOLATIGAH
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
3684 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:00 pm to
i have no problems with permanents because i think the sec is about to realign again with another expansion and Alabama could become one of our permanets
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:00 pm to
Last two years and next year not a great difference? Alabama is in in Miami because of the schedule difference.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17500 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:01 pm to
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The 2012 and 2013 schedules had no rotation whatsoever.


That's not true, with the exception of Mizzou. Look at the opponents and they follow the same pattern.

I looked it up when the schedules came out looking for conspiracy and unfortunatly didn't find one. I'll write it out if I have a chance today.

I'm not saying it was out of the SEC's hands, because they clearly chose to go this path, but it was not entirly made up.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:03 pm
Posted by NOLATIGAH
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
3684 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:02 pm to
alabama stunk when they played the hard teams. now that they are good they are playing the easier ones. L
Posted by nf
Portland, OR
Member since Oct 2012
520 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:06 pm to
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Last two years and next year not a great difference? Alabama is in in Miami because of the schedule difference.


They're in Miami because we gifted them a win in a game we dominated. Bottom line is if we win that game, they don't go this year. They beat us and Georgia, lost a close game to a good A&M team, and destroyed every other team they played.

Scheduling might suck, but LSU had their chance and they blew it. Even if we didn't have Florida on our schedule this year Bama would still be going over us.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

if UT could hire good coaches there wouldnt be that big of a difference.




Right however they wouldn't turn it around in a heartbeat. Even when they had Fatty there, their last couple seasons were not that good. I think the trip to the SECCG in '07 was the best thing they did. They generally didn't have good seasons near the end of his time there, then they got Dooley and we all know how that went.

So while Bama has to have the 3rd Saturday game in October that is always a barnburner, we have to play Florida, Georgia, South Carolina (this season) (Bama didn't play them this season, nor do they play them next season), they play Kentucky, TN, Auburn, Arkansas and TN (all who will be rebuilding their programs).

So tell me where that's fair.

This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:11 pm
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21223 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Alabama is in in Miami because they beat LSU


FIFY
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

i have no problems with permanents because i think the sec is about to realign again with another expansion and Alabama could become one of our permanets



HUH??? They are one of our permanents. We play them every year. And Florida.
Posted by NOLATIGAH
Metairie
Member since Jul 2007
3684 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:10 pm to
birdman its all cyclical over time. that is why i went back to 2000. there were years that we had the advantage, but in 2003 we did have uga uf and usc that year.
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