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re: LA Tech AD Speaks

Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by NELAtigers
Member since Nov 2010
1279 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:02 pm to
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We didn't play many mid-level teams. They either sucked or were Top 25.


So 9 shitty teams and 3 top 25 teams that you lost to and Tech thinks they are a Tier 1 program?

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

Tech thinks they are a Tier 1 program?


what the hell are you talking about?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66892 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:03 pm to
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are you guys giving Van De Vhatever a pass here?


Hint: their AD has the same last name as this guy:
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:04 pm to
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14 points from the Orange Bowl.


And I was only 6 numbers away from winning the powerball
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

So 9 shitty teams and 3 top 25 teams that you lost to and Tech thinks they are a Tier 1 program?


Well, we know we are not shitty and we know we can play Top 25 teams very close. I guess that puts us at Tier 2 somewhere.

How many Tiers are there?
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:06 pm
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:08 pm to
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I'm giving him a pass. I think NIU getting the Orange Bowl at 3:00 on the day of selections screwed everything up. If he would have had the information yesterday that he has today, we would be in the Independence Bowl.



Not according to the CBS article:

"In hindsight, would the AD have told the Independence Bowl to wait had he known this might happen and his team could miss out on a bowl opportunity, he says he still would've done the same thing again. Van De Velde says because the program had played in the Independence Bowl in 2008 and then the Poinsettia Bowl last year, one of those bigger bowls seemed like the progression. "I think we still would've waited because we felt like that's what was best for our university."
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

I'm giving him a pass. I think NIU getting the Orange Bowl at 3:00 on the day of selections screwed everything up. If he would have had the information yesterday that he has today, we would be in the Independence Bowl.

Honest answer...I can appreciate that. Now I want another one...

Do you believe that ULM playing the Indy Bowl had no effect on Tech's decision to seek out another bowl?
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

are you guys giving Van De Vhatever a pass here?


Yes. The impact of his decision is soooo overblown.

Hell! I'm not a Tech Fan, but, if my program was joining CUSA next year, I need to develop a new recruiting base along the Eastern side of this country. If the Liberty Bowl is considering me, and I can establish some foundation in the Memphis recruiting community, I'm holding tight like they did.

TV exposure in the Memphis area is far more beenfical to my future than anything the Indy Bowl can provide.

Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17746 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:10 pm to
1st caller cant understand him
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17746 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Yes. The impact of his decision is soooo overblown.

Hell! I'm not a Tech Fan, but, if my program was joining CUSA next year, I need to develop a new recruiting base along the Eastern side of this country. If the Liberty Bowl is considering me, and I can establish some foundation in the Memphis recruiting community, I'm holding tight like they did.

TV exposure in the Memphis area is far more beenfical to my future than anything the Indy Bowl can provide.






Bingo we have a winner. They wanted to be visble in other areas not North La where they are already visible..
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58036 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:12 pm to
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No. It's accurate. Advocare(sponsor) wanted Ohio there.


They wanted an 8-4 Ohio over a 6-6 Central Michigan. They knew if they waited for Tech that the Pizza Bowl would take Ohio. They didn't want to take the risk La Tech got the Liberty leaving them with a 6-6 MAC team.

So no, its not accurate to say Ohio would have still been available for the Indy had they waited on La Tech.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:14 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:14 pm to
Two things wrong with this:

1) Did they not consider the possibility this could happen with the Kent State/NIU winner having the possibility of finishing top 16?

You gotta have a contingency plan, at least.

2) New Year's Day? Really? For La Tech?
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:15 pm to
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Do you believe that ULM playing the Indy Bowl had no effect on Tech's decision to seek out another bowl?


That's a tough one. I know they didn't want to play in Shreveport even before ULM accepted. But ULM accepting was a double whammy.

But if they knew that was their only choice, they would have accepted in a heart beat. No brainer.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Yes. The impact of his decision is soooo overblown.


Well now their season is over and they can't practice until Spring semester starts.
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
1428 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:16 pm to
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No. It's accurate. Advocare(sponsor) wanted Ohio there.


Why would a company based in Plano Texas want Ohio in the bowl more than Tech? Are they lacking distributors in the MAC area or are they rewarding the MAC for having so many distributors?
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Yes. The impact of his decision is soooo overblown.


Ummm, no.

He pissed away $300k, additional practice time for his team, and national TV exposure.

quote:

if my program was joining CUSA next year, I need to develop a new recruiting base along the Eastern side of this country. If the Liberty Bowl is considering me, and I can establish some foundation in the Memphis recruiting community, I'm holding tight like they did.


LOL WUT?

Being in ANY bowl is positive for recruiting. Not sure why they should be aiming for recruits on the Eastern Seaboard more than any other region, and I certainly don't see how playing in Memphis vs. Shreveport has any impact on that.

quote:

TV exposure in the Memphis area is far more beenfical to my future than anything the Indy Bowl can provide.


I repeat myself: LOL WUT?
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

1) Did they not consider the possibility this could happen with the Kent State/NIU winner having the possibility of finishing top 16?


They were hoping NIU would beat Kent St so 2 Big XII teams would go the BCS games. They got excited when that happened. I do not think they anticipated NIU going to a BCS game.

quote:

2) New Year's Day? Really? For La Tech?


Heart of Dallas was the primary target for Tech. It's played on New Year's Day and they were excited about the prospects of that.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58036 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:21 pm to
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Why would a company based in Plano Texas want Ohio in the bowl more than Tech? Are they lacking distributors in the MAC area or are they rewarding the MAC for having so many distributors?


On top of that, the CEO of Advocare WENT TO LA TECH.

LINK

Sorry, but saying the sponsor wanted Ohio of La Tech doesnt hold water.

quote:



They were hoping NIU would beat Kent St so 2 Big XII teams would go the BCS games. They got excited when that happened. I do not think they anticipated NIU going to a BCS game.


which makes BVDV a moron b/c all week ESPN was talking about how either the winner of Kent/NIU or Boise was extremely likely to crash the BCS.

He can say he was shocked all he wants but to anyone who pays attention to CFB it wasn't all that surprising with the way the season had played out.

UCLA losing to Stanford on Firday kicked the door wide open for it to happen. Texas would have had to upset KState in Manhattan, where they never win BTW, to keep NIU out.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Why would a company based in Plano Texas want Ohio in the bowl more than Tech?


Ask Advocare. They have made public statements to Shreveport media supporting my statement.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:21 pm to
I appreciate the straight answers. Rare around here.

One final one...

What is so damn awful about playing ULM from a Tech perspective? Is it simply because Tech feels they are better than ULM?
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