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bmy
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It takes faith to believe the conspiracies. I don't work that way.


It takes faith to believe in a story fed to me by our oh-so-trustworthy government. I don't know what happened and I don't claim to.. I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle.



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mograyback
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So if Osama bin laden are connected to the Bush's in some way, by a financial manager lets say, I assume that would be important because in your view this would somehow give them an opportunity to conspire about planning the 9/11 attacks? Is that what you are attempting to have us believe? You only said it was something interesting but never really said why. If it is, two things I have to ask:
1. Why would Bush blame the 9/11 attacks on the man who helped him plan the thing? Wouldn't that piss obl off and give him reason to release evidence of their collusion?
2. I thought the whole 9/11 attack had nothing to do with terrorists and that terrorism was just a convenient excuse to start a war, committ insurance fraud, destroy documents, other ridiculous fantasy here, etc.? You only mention obl because you have a weak connection, but otherwise terrorist are scapegoats in the truther narrative, no?



Before you posted I had already decided to not do these threads anymore.

Your post only cements my decision even more. I don't know every detail, I just know that most people are unaware of confirmed truths about 9/11, I thought I'd try to make them aware.

But, a forum is a very bad platform to have this conversation, this topic is unique to most because of it's scope. Which is why I wanted to present things in small doses. I've found this doesn't work, threads spin in many different direction and ultimately people want the entire thing explained at once, not in segments. Leaving things open allows people to fill in the blanks on their own, which only causes more confusion and misunderstanding. For example, the two questions you asked wouldn't even be considered if you understood other aspects of this, your questions would be very different if you were presented those other angles.

The things I did choose to talk about I chose for a reason. I chose concrete things that are unquestionable, just to see how well they would absorb. Obviously they weren't absorbed very well. Even you put 'lets say' when referring to a financial connection between the Bush and Bin Laden family. There is nothing to 'lets say', an Air Force buddy and business partner of George W. Bush's was also the frontman and primary business/financial advisor to Osama's brother Salem. This connection is one of many between the Bush family and middle east elites (and a hint into the large scope; the Bush family's financial connections with evil goes all the way back to the Nazis, this too is proven and uncontested). Is it not interesting these two families have such a tight nit connection? This is a concrete relationship, yet you remain saying 'lets say' as if it's not certain.

I've realized this is impossible, so much is left unsaid and unexplained with each post, plus the mods don't like this topic being discussed (such Orwellian oversight is surprising coming from mods that sport the American flag). The more you know the more you don't know with this topic, I intended to try and make people aware of more than they were before, that is all.

Since we won't be finishing this talk, I'll leave you with the motto of the Mossad "By way of deception, thou shall do war".

Enjoy the lifetime long snooze,

The Jerk





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RogerTheShrubber
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We know false flag attacks happen.. even in our own country. Why is it so hard to believe that 9/11 wasn't just another one?


The reputable folks I have listened to seem to think there is absolutely no reason to even concoct such a conspiracy. I don't trust the government, but the conspiracy stuff makes absolutely no sense and has all been debunked.

To believe it ignores a hell of a lot of fact. You can believe the facts, or you can string together a whole lot of (in your mind) inconsistencies and come up with this fairy tale. I don't care. I find it amusing people can even believe this fabrication when so much fact is out there to the contrary.







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RogerTheShrubber
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Did you look at the link that debunked your myth about air phones on the plane?





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JohnnyKilroy
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Before you posted I had already decided to not do these threads anymore.



Your nightly thread lasted a grand total of 2 threads






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bmy
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The reputable folks I have listened to seem to think there is absolutely no reason to even concoct such a conspiracy. I don't trust the government, but the conspiracy stuff makes absolutely no sense and has all been debunked.

To believe it ignores a hell of a lot of fact. You can believe the facts, or you can string together a whole lot of (in your mind) inconsistencies and come up with this fairy tale. I don't care. I find it amusing people can even believe this fabrication when so much fact is out there to the contrary.


Just a fairy tale..






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RogerTheShrubber
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Well, keep the faith, chief. If the facts don't convince you by now, nothing is going to. Facts aren't the friend of most folks anyway.






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RogerTheShrubber
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mograyback


Well, I guess you didn't like your link being blown out of the water.






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mograyback
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Well, I guess you didn't like your link being blown out of the water


When David Griffin said what he said, he was only speaking on behalf of the FBI. At the time he said that, it was recognized by the FBI that the calls never happened.

New information was found, Griffin had to releases a quick statement about this information and own up to how it effects his previous stance. But near the end of the link you provided he explains how there is more coming from him... I expect it to have to do with the airline dropping seat back phone service in January of 2001, and we know the day in question was in September. Not to mention the strange improbabilities to the story, that she was the only regular passenger on the plane to make a call, she was a major media member and her husband was a high level government official, and she said everyone was sent to the back of the plane, yet she picked up the phone, got her credit card out and made a call..

And apply this to what you've been standing behind all night, that this has all been debunked, new perspectives and information is irrelevant. See how important new information can be? It worked in your favor here.. but it can't go the other way?




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mograyback
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Well, keep the faith, chief. If the facts don't convince you by now, nothing is going to. Facts aren't the friend of most folks anyway.


Facts like this one:

After the elections, US intelligence agencies are told to "back off" investigating the bin Ladens and Saudi royals. There have always been constraints on investigating Saudis. [BBC, 11/6/01, more]

or this

After the elections, US intelligence agencies are told to "back off" investigating the bin Ladens and Saudi royals. There have always been constraints on investigating Saudis. [BBC, 11/6/01, more]

maybe this..

In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, a US intelligence agency (the National Reconnaissance Office or NRO) was all set for an exercise at 9 AM on September 11th in which an aircraft would crash into one of its buildings near Washington, DC. [AP, 8/22/02] Four wargames were also in progress at the time of the attacks. [C-SPAN Congressional Testimony, 3/11/05, more]

Or what about all of these? Yeah, those pesky fact ignorers are just ignorant aren't they eh Rodg?
LINK



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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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VerlanderBEAST
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3 sky scrapers collapsing straight down purely because of 2 planes crashing just sounds ridiculous. No semi intelligent person could possible believe that what they say happened is actually all that actually happened.





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VOR
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The whole fricking thing is a fricking tapestry of lies, coverup, deceit, and bullshite,


That's an apt description of this theory, imo.






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CollegeFBRules
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That's an apt description of this theory, imo.


This thread nothing but a giant conspiracy theory?






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lsu_tiger_az
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3 sky scrapers collapsing straight down purely because of 2 planes crashing just sounds ridiculous. No semi intelligent person could possible believe that what they say happened is actually all that actually happened.




You might get a dictionary and look up the definition of the word "Gravity"...

It explains why things fall "straight down" to earth....











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CollegeFBRules
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The buildings not falling sideways is the basis of the conspiracies in this thread?





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VOR
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The buildings not falling sideways is the basis of the conspiracies in this thread?





That may one of their more rational arguments.






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CollegeFBRules
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Oh hell.






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lsu_tiger_az
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The buildings not falling sideways is the basis of the conspiracies in this thread?


Apparently....

but what do I really know about gravity? I've only been flying aircraft for 36 years and I know that without propulsion and control input, the damn plane goes straight down to the ground.


Who'd thunk it...










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NC_Tigah
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Well here is a link that explains how the most famous call of that day was a lie.

It was from the former CNN reporter who was on board one of the planes
WTF, dude?
Apparently unbeknownst to you, you and/or your source have some serious issues with facts.

(1) You're referring to Barbara Olson.
(2) She wasn't some "reporter from CNN" she was a lawyer, a conservative commentator, and was good at both.
(3) She was someone who I had the opportunity to meet on a couple of occasions.
(4) Fun person to talk too. Pragmatic Texan. Tough as nails.
(5) She's gone! Deceased. Dead. Murdered. In her prime. One day full of life, the next, she's no longer with us.

If your source is saying no cell call took place between Barbara and her husband, I'd speculate he miserably mistaken. Certainly Ted recounts she talked to him. That discussion in he rendition is very poignant.

If your source is asserting Olson's was the "most famous cell call" of the day, he's a total fricking moron.

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This call is the only place we got the 'box cutters' story
So the RECORDED flight attendant calls to emergency lines said nothing about "knives", passengers dead, the seat and physical identification of the terrorists? None of that? Is that the impression you're under?
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Most of them have the person introducing themselves to their loved ones with their full names, which of course got the response from the loved one "why are you using your full name, you never do that".
Give me the name and DIRECT QUOTES . . . . any source . . . . of the actual family members making this claim. It is total BS.






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