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Rehashing my thread from last night Re: Obama and Compromise


Does the removal of his need to pander to his base for votes increase his latitude to compromise with House Republicans?

I think that was a major obstacle in the first term.

Now he could give 2 shits what his voting base thinks.

Thoughts?

Please don't respond with the word "arrogance" or "ego". He now has to consider his legacy.



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His legacy was largely established in 2008 when he became the first black president.





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Why would he compromise now? "He Won".





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Why would he compromise now?
2 reasons:

1) He isn't an evil bastard. I am sure he wants to actually do something to move the country forward.

2) He does not want to be remembered as the president who presided over our country going bankrupt.






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I think he is his base. Or I don't believe his base is much more extreme than he is. I don't think Rs can expect much legit compromise. It doesn't matter though because Nobody that received large amounts of votes yesterday are going to fix the deficit problem. Both parties are unwilling to make cuts that are necessary because of political suicide. I had high hopes that Romney would see his only mission as balancing the budget, and truly wouldn't care about reelection, but when he started getting hammered on his military spending it ended his chances with most Ds and libertarians who may have considered him.


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I think he goes in the opposite direction. He want's to be loved by liberals and will put off the fiscal issues on the next guy.





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Does the removal of his need to pander to his base for votes increase his latitude to compromise with House Republicans?
I think so. After a second loss republicans may be more willing to come to some agreement on deficit reduction as well.
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He now has to consider his legacy.
Right. His ego just might be helpful.

I see you didn't want ego mentioned, and I went and did it.



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He want's to be loved by liberals and will put off the fiscal issues on the next guy.


Clinton frigged only Monica....Obama going frig the whole country with the debt






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Clinton frigged only Monica....Obama going frig the whole country with the debt



I always felt you would see the real Obama in his second term. Whoever is elected next will pay for it.






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2 reasons:

1) He isn't an evil bastard. I am sure he wants to actually do something to move the country forward.

2) He does not want to be remembered as the president who presided over our country going bankrupt.



elections have consequences, remember those statements? He isn't compromising because he got re-elected.






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1) He isn't an evil bastard. I am sure he wants to actually do something to move the country forward.


Did you bump your head? The only compromise he's interested is getting his way.


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2) He does not want to be remembered as the president who presided over our country going bankrupt.



We already are bankrupt. The fact that most Americans don't realize what $16 Trillion in Debt means or they just don't care is why Obama won.


He doesn't have to worry about his legacy. He's the first Black President who's now been twice elected and has the Media and Academia on his side and they are the ones who write history so I don't think he's worried one bit about that.

The legacy Obama cares about is the one in left wing circles. He doesn't care what you are I think is that not obvious to you by now?






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Why would he compromise now?

2 reasons:

1) He isn't an evil bastard. I am sure he wants to actually do something to move the country forward.

2) He does not want to be remembered as the president who presided over our country going bankrupt.


1 - He's a narcissistic useless waste of oxygen, he'd have to give a shite about the country, which he doesn't to want it to move anywhere.

2 - He's going to be remembered as the first black president. He can always blame his failures on Bush.

The funny thing is, everybody with a functional brain admits he sucks at the job, and fortunately for the country he spent the majority of his first term campaigning for the next.

Now he doesn't have to campaign, so he can devote a lot more time to paying off the people who own him.

Doesn't that sound like fun.






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There is just no discussing things with you binary thinkers.

Maybe I'll try again in a week.






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There is just no discussing things with you binary thinkers.

Maybe I'll try again in a week.



Sorry that Obama's re-election hasn't made us look at him in a new light. He's still the same guy he was before yesterday. Nothing has changed.






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elections have consequences, remember those statements? He isn't compromising because he got re-elected.


Depends. If he meets with a lot of failure early, he could compromise and blame the GOP for him not getting his way. I suspect his people will be energized though and you will see a flurry of activity in the next few months.






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I suspect his people will be energized though and you will see a flurry of activity in the next few months.
Well, him and Boehner will have to work shite out to avoid sequestration. Boehner seems like a solid guy, I think they'll get something done. Hopefully they go big, and don't settle for something minor.






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There is just no discussing things with you binary thinkers.

Maybe I'll try again in a week.


Kudos for trying.






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He doesn't need to compromise, he already has. A lot of his policies have not actually gone into affect, the ones that passed, passed with dates in the future because the republicans assumed they would win and could repeal them. Now all Obama has to do is sit back, if the republicans want to compromise they will have to come to him and actually offer something up instead of screaming and whining like babies. You know all those spending cuts that have already been passed, that was Obama offering something up, now it is the republicans turn.





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Rehashing my thread from last night Re: Obama and Compromise Posted by Roaad on 11/7 at 9:58 pm Does the removal of his need to pander to his base for votes increase his latitude to compromise with House Republicans? I think that was a major obstacle in the first term. Now he could give 2 shits what his voting base thinks. Thoughts?




I don't think Obama ever had to pander to his base to get their votes. Who else would they vote for, Romney? Perhaps he catered some of his policy to garner the favor of independents? And no, I don't think he will reach across the aisle.






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He doesn't need to compromise, he already has.
That is blatantly false.

Neither side has had ANY interest in compromise.






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