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coondaddy21 
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| Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:09 pm)
I heard Laura Ingrham earlier when she was asked what did Romney do wrong. She explained that the Republican party needed to elect a conservative who can explain the platform better. We tried putting up moderates like John McCain and Mitt Romney. I am not sure why we feel the need to sway from our core principles.
In 2008 McCain got 59 million votes in 2008 and Obama got 69 million.
This Election Romney got 57 million and Obama got 60 million.
Its obvious that the base for Obama didn't turn out like they did in 2008 but what is more telling is that Romney got less votes than did McCain.
This should say something about the Nominee. Although I grew to be excited to have Romney as the nominee, he wasn't my first choice. Santorum was the person who exhibited my core values. People are saying that the Republican party needs to change its platform on social issues. I can't disagree more. I believe we need to embrace our values and explain them better. We need to understand that we will never convince the liberals to see our point of view. As conservatives, we need to continue to appeal to our base, because its the only way we will win future elections.
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VerlanderBEAST 
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:10 pm to coondaddy21)
Good luck
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marinebioman 
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:12 pm to VerlanderBEAST)
As a Democrat I hope your idea is successful!
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boxcar willie
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:12 pm to VerlanderBEAST)
cutting taxes while increasing spending really isn't conservative thinking
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coondaddy21
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:13 pm to marinebioman)
If I am wrong, then Romney would of done much better. The past two elections have proven that electing a moderate won't excite the base and doesn't really cause the liberals to cross over.
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LSU alum wannabe
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:14 pm to VerlanderBEAST)
If they went more toward the middle and worried less about abortion and religion. They could win again. They pandered to their crowd. While doing this no attempt was made to reach out to people on the fence.
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nobodytooimportant
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:16 pm to coondaddy21)
A thousand times yes, nothing would make this liberal happier. A better chance for victory would be if you guys could invent a unicorn that farted rainbows. I think the electorate would vote for the side that had that.
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VOR 
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:17 pm to coondaddy21)
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Laura Ingrham
A provocateur who wouldn't acknowledge you if you were in the same room.
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She explained that the Republican party needed to elect a conservative who can explain the platform better. We tried putting up moderates like John McCain and Mitt Romney. I am not sure why we feel the need to sway from our core principles.
If I'm a Democrat political strategist, I'm begging you to nominate candidates who are further to the right.
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This should say something about the Nominee. Although I grew to be excited to have Romney as the nominee, he wasn't my first choice. Santorum was the person who exhibited my core values. People are saying that the Republican party needs to change its platform on social issues. I can't disagree more. I believe we need to embrace our values and explain them better. We need to understand that we will never convince the liberals to see our point of view. As conservatives, we need to continue to appeal to our base, because its the only way we will win future elections.
That would be a great idea except for one small detail . . . the majority of the country simply doesn't agree with your "point of view".
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coondaddy21
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe)
Mitt Romney didn't make any issues with regards to abortion and religion. That was the strategy by the Obama team. It was to make you think that Romney was against women. Although Romney didn't scream it out loud with a megaphone, he explained his stance pretty clearly.
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boxcar willie
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe)
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If they went more toward the middle and worried less about abortion and religion. They could win again
true, time to get back to supporting the hard working people of this country. Attacking the backbone of this country isn't going to win a national election.
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bhtigerfan
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:20 pm to coondaddy21)
The Republican platform should be this:
#1. Balanced budget amendment.
#2. Entitlement reform
#3. Immigration reform. Secure our borders. No amnesty.
#4. Cut size/scope of federal government
#5. Term Limits for Congress
#6. Real healthcare reform/ Cost control
#7. Returning/restoring states rights
#8. Tax code/IRS reform (everybody hates the IRS!)
Any more? Need help.
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boxcar willie
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:23 pm to coondaddy21)
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The past two elections have proven that electing a moderate won't excite the base and doesn't really cause the liberals to cross over.
but a moderate, such as the governor of Massachusists type of Romney, not the hard right party controlled type of Romney that ran for President, could have won over independents and won this election.
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Geraldo Rivera
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:25 pm to coondaddy21)
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Santorum was the person who exhibited my core values
You just lost all of your credibility.
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coondaddy21
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:29 pm to Geraldo Rivera)
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You just lost all of your credibility.
The pickens were slim in the Primary and it took a while for me to settle on Santorum. My first choice to run for President was Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, and then Rubio but none of them decided to run.
I know someone personally who worked in congress with Paul Ryan and she informed me that he is the real deal.
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dominustd
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:31 pm to coondaddy21)
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Santorum was the person who exhibited my core values
The current climate dictated a conservative more worried about the economy and less fed gov't than one being more worried about social issues.
Do like the libs do, lie or hide certain tendencies until you get in office. Santorum would have been the best bet, but he campaigned all wrong.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:33 pm to coondaddy21)
Not really. Just need to nominate a con artist with an engaging personality. People don't care for issues anymore.
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coondaddy21
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Louisiana
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:35 pm to dominustd)
IMO, considering the financial mess this country is in, social issues shouldn't even be a factor for anyone voting. I could have cared less if Romney had came out screaming at the top of his lungs that he was Pro Choice conservative. I am more concerned with the economy and the debt crisis.
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bryso 
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:36 pm to coondaddy21)
no we don't a true conservative is the exact opposite of what this country would elect. social issues are what get people elected in this country.
the republicans need to rewrite their platform to be the party of the individual, not against the individual.
then focus on a balanced budget that will eliminate the debt.
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ChemE in the OP
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:37 pm to coondaddy21)
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Republicans need to nominate a true conservative
A Mahmoud Ahmadinejad type?
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bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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| re: Republicans need to nominate a true conservative (Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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Not really. Just need to nominate a con artist with an engaging personality. People don't care for issues anymore.
It's worked quite well for the Dems the past two elections! 
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