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The Mick  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2010 15350 posts

| Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:30 pm)
I see him as a scoring roll player, not a featured starter. Just my opinion.
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TigerNutts  LSU Fan Bossier City, LA Member since Mar 2011 1375 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:31 pm to The Mick)
I don't know what he is after how he played in the Finals.
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xenythx  Florida Fan Member since Dec 2007 17029 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:32 pm to The Mick)
I think he can probably still score in the 20's but don't think he'll be a very good #1 option and won't really make his teammates around him better like a franchise player should.
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Cosmo  Georgia Tech Fan glassman's guest house Member since Oct 2003 55648 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:32 pm to The Mick)
agreed
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The Mick  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2010 15350 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:33 pm to xenythx)
Well put, I agree. I can't see him carrying a team like a max deal guy should.
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bwallcubfan  LSU Fan Monroe Member since Sep 2007 17774 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:35 pm to The Mick)
He's a role player. I think he will struggle in Houston. If I'm a Thunder fan, I'm happy this dude is gone.
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Fun Bunch  New Orleans Saints Fan New Orleans Member since May 2008 15546 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:35 pm to The Mick)
Guy is a solid, well built, "good" player. But he's not some elite "scorer". I would have concerns if he was the #1 option. Still like him as a player though.
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genro  Penn Fan Literally unbannable Member since Nov 2011 18752 posts
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| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:35 pm to The Mick)
He's a very good player. Not a great player. Can't believe he wanted a max deal. 
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bwallcubfan  LSU Fan Monroe Member since Sep 2007 17774 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:37 pm to genro)
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Can't believe he wanted a max deal.
I can believe that he wanted it, but I'm shocked he took the Houston deal over the OKC deal. I mean what was it? $4-5 million dollar difference?
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saintsfan22  New Orleans Saints Fan baton rouge Member since May 2006 19937 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:39 pm to bwallcubfan)
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but I'm shocked he took the Houston deal over the OKC deal. I mean what was it? $4-5 million dollar difference?
Why? More money and gets his own team.
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DallasTiger45  LSU Fan Member since May 2012 270 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:39 pm to The Mick)
I think y'all are seriously underselling Harden. It's not like he just sat around and shot wide open jumpers all day with OKC, he can create his own shot. Plus he has shown he can make clutch shots in big moments. I think he will be outstanding as a #1 option if he can embrace the mindset. He has all the tools to be a 25 PPG scorer in the league.
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floridatigah  LSU Fan FL Member since Oct 2004 5456 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:39 pm to The Mick)
Good shooter and ball handler, and gets to the line at a high rate. I think he'll be very good as the main scorer. Helps that he's going to a team that will prominently feature the pick and roll, where he is awesome.
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Vicks Kennel Club  USA Fan In Spielman We Trust Member since Dec 2010 13003 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:40 pm to The Mick)
He has stop being so reliant on going to the left every damn time. I feel defenses will adjust soon enough. He does have superstar upside though, despite the fact that I am not a fan of his game.
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stapuffmarshy  Syracuse Fan lower 9 Member since Apr 2010 12905 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:41 pm to The Mick)
he works great on a team with a ton of talent where he is not spotlighted I think Houston will be a humongous failure JMO
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genro  Penn Fan Literally unbannable Member since Nov 2011 18752 posts
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| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:42 pm to stapuffmarshy)
Btw OKC got Kevin Martin who is a solid swingman and can also create somewhat off the dribble. Plus TWO first round picks. Is there even any debate that OKC got the better of the deal?
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xenythx  Florida Fan Member since Dec 2007 17029 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:46 pm to floridatigah)
I see him as similar to Joe Johnson. Nice player but I'm not giving him a max contract.
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4LSU2  LSU Fan Madisonville Member since Dec 2009 14754 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:47 pm to The Mick)
He better get the ball the majority of the times if he is making over 13M a year. Based on an 82 game schedule, he is making over 160k a game. I can't see a sixth man being worthy of 160k a game if he isn't scoring a shite load of points and logging some serious minutes. Houston will hate this decision before it is over, IMO.
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stapuffmarshy  Syracuse Fan lower 9 Member since Apr 2010 12905 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:48 pm to genro)
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OKC got Kevin Martin who is a solid swingman and can also create somewhat off the dribble.
older and better than Harden IMO- FOR OKC
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Is there even any debate that OKC got the better of the deal?
none at all
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List Eater Htown/Bossier City Member since Apr 2005 5930 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:48 pm to genro)
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Plus TWO first round picks.
This isn't TWO NFL first round picks.. do you know how hard/often it is to acquire a 23 year old talent like Harden? Why wouldn't Morey pull the trigger on the deal?
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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 265081 posts

| re: Anybody else think James Harden wont be so great as a main scorer? (Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:49 pm to 4LSU2)
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I can't see a sixth man being worthy of 160k a game if he isn't scoring a shite load of points and logging some serious minutes.
how do you feel about manu ginobili? harden is very similar to manu
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