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re: Terry Bradshaw Rips Brees & Saints
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:34 pm to saintsfan92612
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:34 pm to saintsfan92612
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Yes, Brady being so close does diminish the wow factor of the record a little bit (as did him being so close in yards last year) but it is still an incredible record.
Speaking of shamelessly pursuing records for the sake of records
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Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:35 pm to sms151t
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The owners do and Goodell works for the owners.
the owners, nor goodell, have authority over salary cap issues. That was the reason the suspensions were overturned via CBA
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:36 pm to St Augustine
Saints fans if the record was to be broken would throw a fit, you know they would, with situation the same. I don't care that they were there or not, but its arrogant for the organization to ask for this on behalf of Brees.
That's all Bradshaw was pointing out.
That's all Bradshaw was pointing out.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:36 pm to saintsfan92612
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Yes, Brady being so close does diminish the wow factor of the record a little bit (as did him being so close in yards last year) but it is still an incredible record.
I don't understand the thinking behind this shite. Because ONE other QB is close to something, that somehow makes it a commonplace record that doesn't deserve praise?
The same bullshite happened last year with the yards as you mentioned. The record stood for a long arse time despite more and more offenses becoming pass happy. ONE other person passed it, so why does it default to "well that's just not impressive" instead of "these TWO are fricking outstanding to break this record that stood so long."
Same with the consecutive TD game record. Brady may pass it later this year, that doesn't diminish what Brees accomplished, that makes Brady reach a hell of a milestone as well. Just so happens they both lined up to do it the same year. Two people passing 47 in the 2012 doesn't change 47 from being a record for over 50 damn years.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:36 pm to KingofthePoint
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I love how you're criticizing a guy for trying to break a record. As if you wouldn't do the exact same thing.
Going back to last season, it seems like the breaking records has become the primary goal. Brady is the same way and I'm sure he's flipping thru the record books trying to figure out a way to top Brees
Either way I'm inclined to agree with Bradshaw, who cares about personal records if you're holding a Lombardi Trophy at the end of the year?
It makes my arse sick to say this, but could you imagine asking Saban about a passing record for his 1-4 QB? He shove the mic down the throat of the reporter who asked the question. All he cares about is winning
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:36 pm to LSUandAU
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No...I like Brees and think he would rather have team success than individual success, but the way the record was handled seemed wrong to me...excessive...at the time. I understand what Terry is saying! AND I am being passive-aggressive again!
If you haven't noticed, the sports media (and the media at large) are ridiculous about their infatuation with records and always have been. If the treatment of Brees's record was 'excessive,' that's symptomatic of the media and sports world rather than something unique to the Saints
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:37 pm to LSUandAU
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but the way the record was handled seemed wrong to me...excessive...at the time.
Go look at Favre's 421st td, Bradys 50th td, Ripken Jrs record breaking start, and PLEASE look at Emmitt Smiths yardage record breaking run....and tell me how Brees did anything excessive.
The biggest difference for Brees over the Favre and Brady TDs is that his was at home.
Of course the crowd and announcer will revel in it more.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:37 pm to sms151t
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I get the record part of it, but what if it was the Cowboys asking this, would Saint fans be so quick to back the decision to ask?
Dude.. WTF.. I don't give a shite what record is being broken and if that player wants his coaches to attend. Should I seriously be upset at that?
No.. I would appreciate the record being broke and not give 2 shits who attends.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:37 pm to undecided
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Going back to last season, it seems like the breaking records has become the primary goal.
On that 7 game winning streak where we were beating the shite out of everyone?
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who cares about personal records if you're holding a Lombardi Trophy at the end of the year?
who says they have to be exclusive
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:37 pm to saintsfan92612
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Yes, Brady being so close does diminish the wow factor of the record a little bit (as did him being so close in yards last year) but it is still an incredible record.
A good snow game will derail Brady!
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:38 pm to TigerBait1127
Suspension weren't overturned. The CBA had nothing to do with that, as the CBA that was being used was voided and a new one ratified last year.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:39 pm to St Augustine
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anyone who isn't a whiny bitch wouldn't care about a couple of guys sitting in the stands watching a guy they coached...regardless of whatever team they played for....I mean who gives one flying frick.
Did anybody really give a shite that cam's dad was at the stadium for the MNC game when he was explicitly banned? I'm sure some butthurt whiny bitches did, but worrying about where someone is watching a game is a complete bitch move.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:40 pm to undecided
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Either way I'm inclined to agree with Bradshaw, who cares about personal records if you're holding a Lombardi Trophy at the end of the year?
If Bradshaw didnt have a historic defense to carry his arse he would be Archie Manning....but without all the sparkling stats.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:41 pm to sms151t
Saints player bounty suspensions overturned on appeal
that is the title from NFL.com
and it had EVERYTHING to do with the power goodell has under the CPA. He is not allowed to suspend players for salary cap issues under the new CBA
that is the title from NFL.com
and it had EVERYTHING to do with the power goodell has under the CPA. He is not allowed to suspend players for salary cap issues under the new CBA
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:41 pm to undecided
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Going back to last season, it seems like the breaking records has become the primary goal. Brady is the same way and I'm sure he's flipping thru the record books trying to figure out a way to top Brees
Either way I'm inclined to agree with Bradshaw, who cares about personal records if you're holding a Lombardi Trophy at the end of the year?
It makes my arse sick to say this, but could you imagine asking Saban about a passing record for his 1-4 QB? He shove the mic down the throat of the reporter who asked the question. All he cares about is winning
I see what you are saying kind of, and agree about Brady. I think the best comparison is Favre with the Jets. The need to preserve his streak at any means backfired and he played horribly at times, and was blamed for the Jets not making the post season with his poor play.
If the Saints were losing because of Brees, rather than an awful defense and anemic running game, and Brees was churning out INTs and playing poorly, that would be more appropriate. But the Saints are a passing team first and foremost. It's our strength and the reason we have excelled in the last several years. The Saints haven't been passing any more the usual or changing up the offense to accomodate Brees's streak.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:41 pm to LSUandAU
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Payton previously said he didn’t want to attend the game.
The black light of justice likely would reveal extensive lawyer fingerprints on this decision. It was horribly misguided to let Williams attend a game, especially after he gave a sworn statement implicating Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma as offering $10,000 to anyone who knocked former Vikings quarterback Brett Favre out of the 2009 NFC title game. To erase the appearance of preferential treatment, the NFL had to extend a similar courtesy to the other folks who have been suspended.
It’s possible, if not probable, that Brees made the request not because he wants them there, but because he knows in his capacity as a member of the NFLPA Executive Committee that a rejection would have helped the cause of the players who face re-issued bounty suspensions, particularly Vilma.
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And I don't understand what some of you people think Brees should have done. Should have have tried NOT to throw a TD pass since he was 0-4?
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:43 pm to TigerBait1127
The new CBA correct, but the offense happened under old one. They were reduced and one was maintained.
Goodell suspended them for player safety, but originally it was a salary cap issue.
Goodell suspended them for player safety, but originally it was a salary cap issue.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:44 pm to LSUandAU
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A good snow game will derail Brady!
Aside from the supermodel wife and the Uggs, Brady comes across as very narcissistic. If you go back to last season, he always managed to score just enough to beat whoever was holding whatever record that particular weekl
This is what I don't like, throwing touchdowns when you're up 52-10 just to break some arbitrary record. It's not what the game is supposed to be about
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:44 pm to THRILLHO
I really don't know what is wrong with people. It's just pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. To complain about this may be worse than the other pussifications of America.
Posted on 10/10/12 at 8:45 pm to undecided
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Aside from the supermodel wife and the Uggs, Brady comes across as very narcissistic. If you go back to last season, he always managed to score just enough to beat whoever was holding whatever record that particular weekl
This is what I don't like, throwing touchdowns when you're up 52-10 just to break some arbitrary record. It's not what the game is supposed to be about
Meh...People whine because Les Miles will sit on a 6 point lead and try to milk the rest of the game, then the same people whine when Oregon or New England run up the score.
frick...people bitch for the sake of bitching.
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