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re: How I Met Your Mother Season 8 full season thread
Posted on 4/18/13 at 6:06 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 4/18/13 at 6:06 pm to wildtigercat93
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Adoption isnt even an option, because Ted specifies that Robin never has kids at all
I dont think this is true.
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 7:53 pm to Starchild
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it's a sitcom not some deep philosophical program where every little thing matters
False. Theyve built their entire show on the fact that the entire story is important and the little things do matter. They set the bar there, i just expect them to continue to stay at that level which they havent at all
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Maybe Barney was over her at the time. People in real life change their minds all the time. Have you never had a friend that dated the same person twice or months/years after initially becoming friends? Or maybe he wasn't over her and just telling Ted that to make himself/Ted feel better.
The show always makes a point to leave doors open when they know they want to come back to it. The writers went out of there way to show Barney tell Ted with a complete straight face that he was over her and not have a second thought about it. They did this to move along his characters development past playboy scared of commitment into someone mature enough to settle down and develop his relationship with Quinn (who he shouldve actually married).
Then they go and shite on all that by going "screw all that stuff we showed you the past 3 seasons..were gonna mash together these two people that obviously dont make any sense together because we wanted a shocking season 7 finale! Gotcha!!"
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For all we know, she told them off screen
Really? Really? You cant see how awful that is? You cant make something as big as someone not being able to have kids, and make such a huge deal about it when she finds out, and mention that she keeps it a secret...and then ignore it under the premise of "she told them offscreen". Dont you think that would be a big part of all of their lives? shite, Ted would have an aneurism from the quadruple apiffineys he would have after hearing that news. The writers have completely ignored it and may just ignore it throughout the way or find some sloppy way to throw it in at the literal last minute
Posted on 4/18/13 at 7:59 pm to Adam Banks
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I dont think this is true.
LINK
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It is later revealed that Robin cannot have kids and that she never became a mother
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:27 pm to wildtigercat93
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It is later revealed that Robin cannot have kids and that she never became a mother
Yeah Ted never says that. I remember that episode and obviously she cant have kids of her own but it never said that she didnt adopt/never became a mother.
In fact that same site when you click on that episode has the exact quote
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Kids, your aunt Robin never did become a pole-vaulter. But she did become a famous journalist, a successful businesswoman, a world traveler, she was even briefly a bullfighter (that's a funny story, I'll get to that one later). But there was one thing your aunt Robin never was; she was never alone.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:40 pm to Adam Banks
In that episode Robin told everyone in the group she was upset because she found out she could "never become a pole vaulter"
Becoming a pole-vaulter was a metaphor for having kids because that's what was actually wrong
So when ted says
it means
Becoming a pole-vaulter was a metaphor for having kids because that's what was actually wrong
So when ted says
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your aunt Robin never did become a pole-vaulter
it means
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your aunt robin never had kids
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:51 pm to wildtigercat93
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In that episode Robin told everyone in the group she was upset because she found out she could "never become a pole vaulter"
Yes I know that
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So when ted says
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your aunt Robin never did become a pole-vaulter
it means
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your aunt robin never had kids
I think you are reading too much into that IMO. The entire episode was everyone thinking actual pole vaulting. She never told Ted at any point her situation. Hes addressing his kids and they would know if Robin had kids or not. He didnt say "as you know robin never became a pole vaulter" he says she didnt do one random thing but did do all this other (including some random) stuff.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:57 pm to Adam Banks
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I think you are reading too much into that IMO. The entire episode was everyone thinking actual pole vaulting. She never told Ted at any point her situation. Hes addressing his kids and they would know if Robin had kids or not. He didnt say "as you know robin never became a pole vaulter" he says she didnt do one random thing but did do all this other (including some random) stuff.
That was future Ted saying that line. So obviously he knows what she meant by pole vaulter because he knows she doesnt have kids.
Its clear as day.
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In Mother‘s grand tradition of awe-inspiring metaphors (ie: sandwich=joint), Robin simply told her friends she was upset because she “could never be a pole vaulter.” And though she was sad, we, as viewers, held on to the fact that she would eventually have children. After all, we saw her talking to them. But then, the rug was pulled out from under us and onto our faces we fell: The end of the episode revealed Robin was only imagining her future children — and that she never had any
LINK
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:29 pm to wildtigercat93
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That was future Ted saying that line. So obviously he knows what she meant by pole vaulter because he knows she doesnt have kids.
Yes but his kids would know that too. Why would he tell his kids what they already know? Its not like theyd need the information that a person theyve known all their lives didnt have kids.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:31 pm to wildtigercat93
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In Mother‘s grand tradition of awe-inspiring metaphors (ie: sandwich=joint), Robin simply told her friends she was upset because she “could never be a pole vaulter.” And though she was sad, we, as viewers, held on to the fact that she would eventually have children. After all, we saw her talking to them. But then, the rug was pulled out from under us and onto our faces we fell: The end of the episode revealed Robin was only imagining her future children — and that she never had any
I dont think the kids mean anything because she was imagining what it would be like if her and barney had kids of their own.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:34 pm to Adam Banks
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Yes but his kids would know that too. Why would he tell his kids what they already know? Its not like theyd need the information that a person theyve known all their lives didnt have kids.
He didn't tell the kids like it was some sort of revelation to them. it was a narration device used to tell the audience.
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This is a dumb theory. The light show at the end was because ted thinking there had to be something more than pole vaulting but that she wouldnt tell him.
No shite? I don't see your point here. And its not really a theory, its what the writers give to you spelled out loud as can be
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Pole vaulting wasnt "a sandwich". .
Then You completely missed the point of why she brought up a "sandwich". The article is saying Robin is using "Pole Vaulting" as a metaphor for being a mother in the same way that a sandwich is a joint when future ted is talking to his kids
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I dont think the kids mean anything because she was imagining what it would be like if her and barney had kids of their own.
Who said the imaginary kids mean anything?
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:42 pm to wildtigercat93
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He didn't tell the kids like it was some sort of revelation to them. it was a narration device used to tell the audience.
Meh. Every other time they have done that to tell the audience he reveals it as if the kids have the familiarity that one would expect. "i.e. thats how I met your aunt robin". You could be right, but IMO its written in a way that leaves adoption open.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:46 pm to wildtigercat93
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Who said the imaginary kids mean anything?
Her article. She said the hope is kept till the wathcer has the rug pulled out by saying the kids werent real.
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Then You completely missed the point of why she brought up a "sandwich". The article is saying Robin is using "Pole Vaulting" as a metaphor for being a mother in the same way that a sandwich is a joint when future ted is talking to his kids
Thats a dumb theroy. The writers write the sandwich metaphor to always be sandwich-whether the action is on screen or hes talking to his kids you can substitute marijuana for eating a sandwich it doesnt change anything except they were getting high instead of eating. If you substitute that she told them she cant have kids instead of her saying pole vaulting then none of the subsequent actions in the episode make any sense. At the end of the episode ted says "you dont have to tell me the real reason but Im still going to try to cheer you up anyways" and he makes the light show. Obviously he wouldnt say that if he knew she couldnt have kids.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:49 pm to Adam Banks
Im officially tired of this argument 
This is what it feels like
LINK
This is what it feels like
LINK
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:55 pm to wildtigercat93
You being the donkey here. The episode is completely changed if the writers the entire episode are using pole vaulting as a metaphor. No actions by the other characters make any sense specifically Ted. The entire episode he knows there is something real wrong and she wont tell him. He would obviously not keep fishing if she was told she was infertile. Now the last referance as told to the kids MIGHT have been written that way Ill give that one to you but it also makes just as much sense not to be. Seeing as they are his kids, keeping with the way the writers have written in the past, he would have addressed them as them being familiar with her not having kids.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:10 pm to Adam Banks
You have completely misread what I have been saying. Im not saying that when Robin tells them shes sad because shes not able to be a pole vaulter, that in actuality shes telling them she cant have kids. im not saying at all, im saying the opposite of that. one of the biggest peeves I have right now with this show is that she hasn't told anybody that she cant have kids
What I am saying is that in the same way that Future Ted uses to tell his kids about his pot smoking (through the metaphor of sandwiches). Robin is using the phrase "pole vaulter" which to her means not having kids but to the present day cast they take it literally. But in the future, when Ted would know that she cant and doesn't have kids, he uses the phrase :pole vaulter" because it was used as a metaphor throughout the episode to mean "Robin cant have kids"
What I am saying is that in the same way that Future Ted uses to tell his kids about his pot smoking (through the metaphor of sandwiches). Robin is using the phrase "pole vaulter" which to her means not having kids but to the present day cast they take it literally. But in the future, when Ted would know that she cant and doesn't have kids, he uses the phrase :pole vaulter" because it was used as a metaphor throughout the episode to mean "Robin cant have kids"
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:18 pm to wildtigercat93
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But in the future, when Ted would know that she cant and doesn't have kids, he uses the phrase :pole vaulter" because it was used as a metaphor throughout the episode to mean "Robin cant have kids"
And I acknowledged that could be very possible. IMO though it doesnt keep with how the writers have written those lines. JMO but he said it in a way that he was conveying to the kids new information when they being close to robin and barney would know if they had kids or not. This doesnt keep with past episodes where the writers have revealed new information to the audience (such as robin not being the wife) by referring to what would be familiar information to the kids.
No matter what it doesnt excuse the fact that Robin hasnt told barney that shes infertile.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:21 pm to Adam Banks
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No matter what it doesnt excuse the fact that Robin hasnt told barney that shes infertile.
That we can agree on and lets just leave it at that
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:15 pm to wildtigercat93
Well let's remember that Future Ted said
in S7E24, now that may be referring to Victoria's Wedding, or it could be B&R
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Kids this is the story of a wedding day that went horribly wrong
in S7E24, now that may be referring to Victoria's Wedding, or it could be B&R
Posted on 4/20/13 at 12:35 pm to Analyze That
Bump so we can find the thread next week
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:01 pm to Analyze That
Why the hell isn't there a new episode?
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