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| Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:20 pm)
This is the legendary "Released only on 8 track" band: The Flatlanders: The Odessa Tapes The Flatlanders, Lubbock TX c. 1971 (l-r): Steve Wesson, saw player; Butch Hancock, guitar, harmonica, vocals; Jimmie Dale Gilmore, guitar, vocals; Tony Pearson, mandolin, vocals; Joe Ely, guitar, dobro, harmonica, vocals
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The Flatlanders The Odessa Tapes (New West Records) Rating: 4 out of 5 stars The Flatlanders’ reputation – mythos may be the better word – developed as much because of the scarcity of their material as their prescient attempt to infuse Texas roots and acoustic instrumentation into the otherwise-slick country music of the early 1970s. Their 1972 Nashville-recorded album was barely released by an uninterested record company [see 8 track, above], and they broke up not long afterward. When its material was re-released by Rounder Records in 1990, the CD was titled More a Legend Than a Band. That’s what the long-lost Flatlanders had become. My, how that has now changed. The solo success that the three core Flatlanders – Joe Ely, Jimmie Dale Gilmore and Butch Hancock – were starting to have in the 1980s, and that prompted the Rounder release, continued in the 1990s. As Americana developed with Austin as its center, they became celebrated heroes and that eventually prompted a serious, ongoing band reunion. There’s now a cornucopia of Flatlanders material available – new recordings and archival releases. And the new The Odessa Tapes is one more – an important one. It’s a recently discovered and newly restored recording of 14 songs the Flatlanders had cut at a studio in Odessa, Texas, in January 1972. It was near – by Texas standards – their home in Lubbock. That two months before they went to Nashville, making this their earliest known recordings. Originally made on a three-track tape recorder, and then kept in storage until The Flatlanders learned about it, the tape was taken to Capitol Mastering in Hollywood. There are still some minor technical imperfections, understandable given the source material’s age, but overall the songs sound startlingly fresh and new. In fact, the sound, singing and arrangements are livelier, more direct and more passionate than the Nashville versions of the same songs.
"Dallas" (Nashville version) "You've Never Seen Me Cry" "Down In My Hometown" Unfortunately one of my favorite tracks from the 1972 album, "Tonight I Think I'm Gonna Go Downtown", does not seem to be on YouTube. ETA: The Sirius/XM channel 60 Outlaw Country will air a one-hour special to celebrate the release of The Odessa Tapes, Monday Sept 3 at 7 PM. Hosted by Joe Ely, Jimmie Dale Gilmore and Butch Hancock.
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Souljah  Southern Cal Fan Audubon Park VIA Kingston,Jamaica Member since Apr 2012 4269 posts

| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/3/12 at 3:08 pm to Kafka)
Shooter Jennings,mon
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/3/12 at 5:43 pm to Kafka)
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"Dallas"
It was always a shame that it took so long for many to hear this great music... Here's Butch, Joe and JDG with a live version... Tonight I Think Im Gonna Go Downtown
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/3/12 at 7:28 pm to Kafka)
Compared to Gene Clark, cult figure Gram Parsons is a household name. Despite being a founding member of The Byrds, Clark (1945-1991) could never make a commercial breakthrough after leaving the band. His classic 1968 album with Doug Dillard (who died earlier this year), The Fantastic Expedition of Dillard & Clark, was a pioneering effort in the genre of country-rock. Doug Dillard & Gene Clark: Dillard & Clark - "There's A Train Leaves Here This Morning" Dillard & Clark - "Why Not Your Baby" Dillard & Clark - "Don't Let Me Down" Great Beatles cover But The Fantastic Expedition of Dillard & Clark didn't sell, nor did Clark's solo albums of the 1970s, despite frequent moments of brilliance. Gene Clark - "Spanish Guitar" Supposedly Bob Dylan told GC he "would have been proud to write this song" Gene Clark - "Some Misunderstanding" Gene Clark - "With Tomorrow" Live video of a later classic Gene Clark - "Hear the Wind" RIP 
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/3/12 at 9:00 pm to Kafka)
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The Sirius/XM channel 60 Outlaw Country will air a one-hour special to celebrate the release of The Odessa Tapes, Monday Sept 3 at 7 PM. Hosted by Joe Ely, Jimmie Dale Gilmore and Butch Hancock
Just finished listening to this Most of it was the guys playing in the studio. They played three tracks off the new release. "Tonight I Think I'm Gonna Go Downtown" had nice playing but a tentative vocal from Gilmore -- I prefer the Nashville version. They did not play the Odessa version of "Dallas", which is what I most wanted to hear. Joe Ely told a story about picking up a hitch hiker in Lubbock in the late '60s, The hitcher's name was Townes Van Zandt and he gave Joe a copy of his recent album out of his backpack. 
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/3/12 at 9:16 pm to Kafka)
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Joe Ely told a story about picking up a hitch hiker in Lubbock in the late '60s, The hitcher's name was Townes Van Zandt and he gave Joe a copy of his recent album out of his backpack.
thats cool as shit
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 11:31 am to CottonWasKing)
From Wikipedia:
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Steve Young (born July 12, 1942) is an American country music singer, songwriter and guitarist, best known for his song "Seven Bridges Road" (on Rock Salt & Nails & Seven Bridges Road). He is a pioneer of the country rock, Americana, and alternative country sounds, and also a vital force behind the 'outlaw movement' that gave support to the careers of Waylon Jennings, Hank Williams, Jr. and more. Steve was also featured in the 1975 Outlaw Country documentary Heartworn Highways. Born in Newnan, Georgia, he grew up in Alabama, Georgia and Texas, moving from place to place as his family searched for work. By the time he had completed high school, Young was playing and writing songs that incorporated influences of folk, blues, country and gospel that he absorbed while travelling throughout the South. Steve Young wrote (and continues to write) many songs, including outlaw classics such as "Lonesome, On'ry and Mean" (covered by Waylon Jennings) and "Montgomery In the Rain" (covered by Hank Williams, Jr.). His best-known composition is "Seven Bridges Road", which became a major hit for The Eagles when they included a cover of it on their live album in 1980.
The brief Wikipedia article doesn't mention Steve was a member of the pioneer country-rock band Stone Country, whose only album was released in 1968 -- the same year as better known efforts in the genre by Gram Parsons with The International Submarine Band and The Byrds. Steve Young - "Seven Bridges Road" Steve Young - "Alabama Highway" film clip from 1975 Steve Young - "Montgomery In The Rain" Steve Young - "That's How Strong My Love Is" If you like the Americana-alt.country sound and have never heard Steve Young, you're in for a real treat.
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 11:48 am to Kafka)
I just heard this for the first time yesterday. Not sure where to put it -- guess I'll post it here. Marty Stuart w/ Old Crow Medicine Show - "I Can See For Miles"
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TFTC  LSU Fan New Orleans, LA Member since May 2010 7690 posts

| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 1:59 pm to Kafka)
One of the finest Texas/Country records of the 70's (or anytime)... Terry Allen - Lubbock (on everything) Amarillo Highway
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oompaw  LSU Fan In piney hill country... Member since Dec 2007 5483 posts

| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 2:58 pm to TFTC)
Another True Original Good tunes Hot Burrito #1 Christine's Tune Juanita Lazy Days Sin City
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TFTC  LSU Fan New Orleans, LA Member since May 2010 7690 posts

| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:15 pm to oompaw)
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Another True Original
probably the holy grail of the genre... (in general, not texas based)
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:29 pm to oompaw)
Been waiting for somebody to post Gram. I really should've started the thread with him, but I saw that Flatlanders Odessa Sessions article and wanted to post it for the board. I'm sure much more GP will turn up here as the thread goes on its journey... A Dylanesque song GP wrote and recorded during his NYC folksinger period: Gram Parsons - "November Nights" (1966) The next year when GP was in L.A. he met a young Hollywood actor -- Gram always had a gift for making influential friends -- who was also a wannabe singer. Gram convinced him to record his song: Peter Fonda - "November Nights" (1967)
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:30 pm to TFTC)
I heard the burritos out in California could fly, higher than the birds.
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:39 pm to TFTC)
Somebody who never gets enough respect as a country-rock pioneer: The Monkees - "What Am I Doin' Hangin' 'Round" (1967) Yes I'm serious -- compare it to this track (featuring Gram Parsons): The International Submarine Band - "Luxury Liner" (1968)
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:19 pm to Kafka)
Ballad of Spider John Recorded his lone album in '72 - hasn't released one since. Jimmy Buffett does a great cover of this song on his '74 album. He'll also occasionally cover 'Northeast Texas Women' in concert. Like The Monkees song! A guy that I don't think gets near enough credit for country rock is Rick Nelson and his Stone Canyon Band. His 1970 slbum 'In Concert at The Troubadour' is damn good. Future Poco and Eagle Randy Meisner on bass and harmony. I Shall Be Released Come On In
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:30 pm to Chitter Chatter)
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Never heard of him before He also did the original version of "Muskrat Love"
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:30 pm to Chitter Chatter)
For those who love older country, check out Laura Cantrell's The Radio Thrift Shop Go to the archive section... Hours and hours of good listening... there is also contemporary stuff played.. “The Radio Thrift Shop” started on WFMU (New Jersey) in 1993, the program was a Saturday afternoon staple in the New York area for 13 years, Laura then moved to WFMU.org and ran for two seasons on BBC Radio Scotland as a summer replacement in 2005 and 2006. She still pops up from time to time and had a show this past weekend
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:33 pm to Chitter Chatter)
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Like The Monkees song!
Mike Nesmith (Wool Hat, the one from Texas) was very active in the country-rock scene After the Monkees broke up he made the pop top 40 with this: "Joanne"
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:38 pm to TFTC)
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For those who love older country, check out Laura Cantrell's The Radio Thrift Shop Go to the archive section... Hours and hours of good listening... there is also contemporary stuff played.. “The Radio Thrift Shop” started on WFMU (New Jersey) in 1993, the program was a Saturday afternoon staple in the New York area for 13 years, Laura then moved to WFMU.org and ran for two seasons on BBC Radio Scotland as a summer replacement in 2005 and 2006. She still pops up from time to time and had a show this past weekend
Not familiar with her, but WFMU is pretty awesome (if you can get past their politics). I used to be a regular reader of their Beware of the Blog!, a must for fans of Dr. Demento, "Outsider" music, and overall weirdness.
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| re: Long haired hippie redneck freaks -- that is to say, Country-Rock (Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:30 pm to Kafka)
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Mike Nesmith
Very underrated! Kafka, you have some good taste in music. You alright in my book.
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