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How early should A. Hernandez and M. Ryan go?
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:56 pm
Have a PPR league draft in just over an hour. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE. I have the 3rd overall pick. I have been doing some strategizing based on ADP from various sights.
I plan on going RB, RB, WR, TE, QB, WR.
I was thinking I could get Aaron Hernandez in the 4th round (46th overall pick) and Matt Ryan in the 5th (51st overall pick). Hoping I can get someone like Stevie Johnson or DeSean Jackson in the 6th. However, I've been second guessing myself recently thinking this may be too early to take both of these guys. What do yall think?
12 team league.
I plan on going RB, RB, WR, TE, QB, WR.
I was thinking I could get Aaron Hernandez in the 4th round (46th overall pick) and Matt Ryan in the 5th (51st overall pick). Hoping I can get someone like Stevie Johnson or DeSean Jackson in the 6th. However, I've been second guessing myself recently thinking this may be too early to take both of these guys. What do yall think?
12 team league.
This post was edited on 8/29/12 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:58 pm to BeaumontBengal
Shall we assume the league size?
Posted on 8/29/12 at 6:59 pm to TigerTatorTots
Tots go into the non regulars league and vote on a trade
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:06 pm to BeaumontBengal
Your estimations are accurate.
They'll both outperform those draft spots too.
They'll both outperform those draft spots too.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:09 pm to BeaumontBengal
Ryan in 5th too early. He's been going much later in my drafts. Close to the 8th.
You shouldn't schedule your draft by position like that before you even know who will be available. Recipe for disaster
You shouldn't schedule your draft by position like that before you even know who will be available. Recipe for disaster
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:10 pm to Lester Earl
FWIW, Ryan has been going higher the past week or so
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:25 pm to Lester Earl
I'm just being realistic on what will be available based on where I'm picking. I have realistic RB and WRs targeted at each pick in the first 4 rounds, too. Had the third pick last weekend and kind of got blindsided when I got to round 2 and there were no RBs I liked. Ended up getting Julio Jones at 22 overall (2nd round) and Trent Richardson at 27 overall (3rd round), but wasn't thrilled about it. The Jones pick has grown on me over the week, though. However, that is too many Alabama players for my liking.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 9:12 pm to BeaumontBengal
You won't get Hernandez after 4th in my opinion.
Posted on 8/29/12 at 11:25 pm to St Augustine
J. Graham fell to me in the second round - 22 overall. I went Rice, Graham, Sproles, Bowe (obviously didn't need a second TE here), Stevie Johnson, M. Ryan, R. Wayne.
So I got M. Ryan in the 6th instead of 5th where I originally planned. A Hernandez went a lot later than I expected - 6th round. He went behind Graham, Gronk, and Gates in terms of TEs.
My draft ended up like this:
1. Ray Rice
2. Jimmie Graham
3. Darren Sproles
4. Dwayne Bowe
5. Stevie Johnson - I deviated from my original plans here as I originally planned to take Ryan hereand try and get Johnson in the 6th, but P. Manning, Rivers, and Romo were still available. Figured I could wait another round and would have taken any of those if needed - however, all were gone except Matt Ryan so I didn't have to make a decision
6. Matt Ryan
7. Reggine Wayne
8. Kenny Britt - hopefully back to full strength after first 2-3 weeks
9. Robert Griffin III
10. Felix Jones
11. Houston Texans
12. Daniel Thomas
13. Branden Lafell
14. Plaxico Burress - took a flyer here
15. Matt Bryant
16. Knowshon Moreno - didn't realize he had dropped to 3rd string until after the draft - knew it was too good to be true.
Don't love my backup running backs, but all in all, I'm happy with this team in a 12 team PPR league.
So I got M. Ryan in the 6th instead of 5th where I originally planned. A Hernandez went a lot later than I expected - 6th round. He went behind Graham, Gronk, and Gates in terms of TEs.
My draft ended up like this:
1. Ray Rice
2. Jimmie Graham
3. Darren Sproles
4. Dwayne Bowe
5. Stevie Johnson - I deviated from my original plans here as I originally planned to take Ryan hereand try and get Johnson in the 6th, but P. Manning, Rivers, and Romo were still available. Figured I could wait another round and would have taken any of those if needed - however, all were gone except Matt Ryan so I didn't have to make a decision
6. Matt Ryan
7. Reggine Wayne
8. Kenny Britt - hopefully back to full strength after first 2-3 weeks
9. Robert Griffin III
10. Felix Jones
11. Houston Texans
12. Daniel Thomas
13. Branden Lafell
14. Plaxico Burress - took a flyer here
15. Matt Bryant
16. Knowshon Moreno - didn't realize he had dropped to 3rd string until after the draft - knew it was too good to be true.
Don't love my backup running backs, but all in all, I'm happy with this team in a 12 team PPR league.
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 12:23 am
Posted on 8/30/12 at 10:28 am to BeaumontBengal
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Daniel Thomas
He's looking good some far. He and Reggie could really be the 1-2 punch they were looking for last year.
Posted on 8/30/12 at 2:22 pm to BeaumontBengal
quote:
11. Houston Texans
Posted on 8/30/12 at 2:52 pm to ZTiger87
Very very solid draft. I like the Reggie Wayne pick. I am looking to draft him this year....I feel he will outplay his draft position.
Posted on 8/30/12 at 3:12 pm to St Augustine
quote:
You won't get Hernandez after 4th in my opinion.
yeah, the TE situation getting worse
Witten isn't a sure thing and now neither is Finley
quote:
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel suspects Jermichael Finley could lose snaps to D.J. Williams this year.
quote:
Packers TE D.J. Williams was "having one of the best camps of anyone on the team"..The rich get richer. Confirming that Williams has opened eyes, OC Tom Clements is now devising ways to get his second tight end on the field
Had him last year, Sucked arse, and if now he's competing for TE targets, then he's off my list
Posted on 8/30/12 at 3:29 pm to Jahel
Meh:
DJ Williams has one career reception for 7 yards. I doubt he'll have much of an impact on Finley's season
quote:
Williams has had a strong training camp, but we doubt his increased role will be enough to have a major impact on Finley's fantasy output. Williams is more of an H-back type valued for his versatility and reliable hands
DJ Williams has one career reception for 7 yards. I doubt he'll have much of an impact on Finley's season
Posted on 8/30/12 at 11:15 pm to ZTiger87
Why are people so against drafting a D that you want early?
The Texans open up against Miami, Jacksonville, Denver, Tennessee, Jets to open the season. Indianapolis and Minnesota week 15 and 16 - the playoffs. I'll take that over any of the other players taken around where I took the Texans.
Who am I just dying to pick up here in this draft that I would actually play?
Here are the 11th (when I took the Texans) and 12th round of my draft. I would hope I don't have to play anyone drafted down here with the guys I already had on my team.
I'm Dr. Dickhead.
Round: 11
(121) Houston No Namers - Brandon Pettigrew TE
(122) New Jersey Guidos - Stephen Hill WR
** (123) Dr. Dickhead - Texans D/ST D/ST
(124) CAPTAIN SACK - Ravens D/ST D/ST
(125) Manning Around Town - Mike Williams WR
(126) Ed Hoculi - Andy Dalton QB
(127) Urban Achievers - Bernard Scott RB
(128) T TT - Steelers D/ST D/ST
(129) The Bald Badasses - Bears D/ST D/ST
(130) Poopie Pants - Seahawks D/ST D/ST
(131) Beaumont arse Slappers - Lions D/ST D/ST
(132) Myron Muffdiver - Jets D/ST D/ST
Round: 12
(133) Myron Muffdiver - Nate Burleson WR
(134) Beaumont arse Slappers - Joe Flacco QB
(135) Poopie Pants - Carson Palmer QB
(136) The Bald Badasses - Josh Freeman QB
(137) T TT - Evan Royster RB
(138) Urban Achievers - Falcons D/ST D/ST
(139) Ed Hoculi - Randy Moss WR
(140) Manning Around Town - Eagles D/ST D/ST
(141) CAPTAIN SACK - Laurent Robinson WR
** (142) Dr. Dickhead - Daniel Thomas RB
(143) New Jersey Guidos - Isaiah Pead RB
(144) Houston No Namers - Shane Vereen RB
The Texans open up against Miami, Jacksonville, Denver, Tennessee, Jets to open the season. Indianapolis and Minnesota week 15 and 16 - the playoffs. I'll take that over any of the other players taken around where I took the Texans.
Who am I just dying to pick up here in this draft that I would actually play?
Here are the 11th (when I took the Texans) and 12th round of my draft. I would hope I don't have to play anyone drafted down here with the guys I already had on my team.
I'm Dr. Dickhead.
Round: 11
(121) Houston No Namers - Brandon Pettigrew TE
(122) New Jersey Guidos - Stephen Hill WR
** (123) Dr. Dickhead - Texans D/ST D/ST
(124) CAPTAIN SACK - Ravens D/ST D/ST
(125) Manning Around Town - Mike Williams WR
(126) Ed Hoculi - Andy Dalton QB
(127) Urban Achievers - Bernard Scott RB
(128) T TT - Steelers D/ST D/ST
(129) The Bald Badasses - Bears D/ST D/ST
(130) Poopie Pants - Seahawks D/ST D/ST
(131) Beaumont arse Slappers - Lions D/ST D/ST
(132) Myron Muffdiver - Jets D/ST D/ST
Round: 12
(133) Myron Muffdiver - Nate Burleson WR
(134) Beaumont arse Slappers - Joe Flacco QB
(135) Poopie Pants - Carson Palmer QB
(136) The Bald Badasses - Josh Freeman QB
(137) T TT - Evan Royster RB
(138) Urban Achievers - Falcons D/ST D/ST
(139) Ed Hoculi - Randy Moss WR
(140) Manning Around Town - Eagles D/ST D/ST
(141) CAPTAIN SACK - Laurent Robinson WR
** (142) Dr. Dickhead - Daniel Thomas RB
(143) New Jersey Guidos - Isaiah Pead RB
(144) Houston No Namers - Shane Vereen RB
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 8/31/12 at 12:49 am to BeaumontBengal
quote:
Why are people so against drafting a D that you want early?
The difference between the best defense and the 10th-12th best defense isn't that great. The chances you picked up the best defense is a crapshoot anyway. So why not just wait until the 2nd to last round and pick up a defense that is probably not going to be that much worse and might actually be better?
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Who am I just dying to pick up here in this draft that I would actually play?
Pretty much any WR or RB available. I'd rather take a chance that Mike Williams bounces back, Royster becomes the starter or Isiah Pead is better than expected. For instance, last year when everyone started to take defenses, I drafted Steve Smith. A few years ago I drafted McFadden in the same situation.
This post was edited on 8/31/12 at 12:52 am
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