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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by ladytiger118 on 3/29/15 at 10:29 am to Snatchy
I'm thinking Ramsay makes the Myranda chick Fake Arya.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by Snatchy on 3/29/15 at 10:34 am to ladytiger118
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I'm thinking Ramsay makes the Myranda chick Fake Arya.
That could happen. Does Sansa know of the Bolton's evil ways? I would have a hard time believing she would marry something worse than Joff.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by Warfarer on 3/29/15 at 10:35 am to ladytiger118
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I'm thinking Ramsay makes the Myranda chick Fake Arya.
that would fit in the timeline if Jon beheads Slynt the week before correct? That would mean that Jon is officially Commander and the Boltons are sitting in Winterfell.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by ladytiger118 on 3/29/15 at 7:15 pm to Warfarer
Correct.
Also, 2 more weeks to go . At this time I'll be counting down to 45 minutes until starting time by drinking some Dornish wine or World Market GoT beer.
Also, 2 more weeks to go . At this time I'll be counting down to 45 minutes until starting time by drinking some Dornish wine or World Market GoT beer.
This post was edited on 3/29 at 7:16 pm
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by Gugich22 on 3/30/15 at 12:01 pm to ladytiger118
I upvoted, FWIW
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by SundayFunday on 3/30/15 at 3:38 pm to Papercutninja
So is it a consensus that young Aegon is not the real Aegon? If so, why?
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by OMLandshark on 3/30/15 at 4:15 pm to SundayFunday
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So is it a consensus that young Aegon is not the real Aegon? If so, why?
1) The Golden Company has historically been anti-Targaryen and pro-Blackfyre. They mocked Viceroys to his face by ripping him off and just laughing at him. They also already knew about Aegon and had no qualms with him.
2) Varys actively plotted against Rhaegar. I don't see why Varys would plot against Rhaegar and make his life's mission to crown his son.
3) Varys and Illyrio seem to have sent Targaryens all to their deaths.
4) Quaithe tells Dany to be aware of the "mummer's dragon". This implies that there is a fake Targaryen, and Varys was a mummer, so it makes sense.
5) In the House of the Undying, Dany sees a vision of a cloth dragon on poles.
6) A sorcerer paid a heavy sum for Varys in particularly, which makes me think he knew that he had king's blood in him to do a dark ritual.
7) Illyrio married a slave of Valyrian descent named Serra, but he said she died from a disease. The theory is she actually died in childbirth and is also Varys sister (another former slave). Illyrio seems to be particularly attached to Aegon in more than just a political maneuver, to where it is likely he is none other than his own son.
8) Jon Connington only met Aegon when he was a few years old, and not a baby. Easily could have fooled him.
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by ohiovol on 3/30/15 at 4:58 pm to SundayFunday
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So is it a consensus that young Aegon is not the real Aegon? If so, why?
While I'm not certain, I really hope he's not. I just think it's a better story if he's an imposter. It's kind of a lame twist if he's real.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by PeteRose on 3/30/15 at 5:13 pm to ladytiger118
I usually need some GoT beer to wash down a bowl of brown.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by OMLandshark on 3/31/15 at 3:11 pm to PeteRose
Anybody read this, basically how Alex Graves really doesn't understand the books (like thinking Tyrion grew up in King's Landing and saying Tysha is dead), and lobbied against David and Dan to drop the whole Tysha plot with the end, and won out: LINK
I can deal with the lack of Stoneheart, but changing really the general direction of Tyrion's arc as a whole without the whole Tysha revelation has rubbed me the wrong way more than anything else done on the show. They could have brought it up on several occasions last season. On the top of my head times they could have reminded the audience.
1) Have Tyrion tell Sansa in the first episode about his first marriage.
2) When Sansa flees from Tyrion, Tyrion would bring up that this isn't the first wife he's been betrayed by, with Jaime giving him an uncomfortable smile.
3) Have Littlefinger tell Sansa not to pity Tyrion, since when he grew bored with his first wife, he handed her to his household guard and had her gang rapped.
4) When Jaime confronts Tywin about sparing Tyrion and the trial being a farse, when Tywin says this is justice, Jaime could bring up if what he made him do with Tyrion's first wife being justice, and Tywin stops him dead in his tracks and says he did what needed to be done to protect the family.
5) After the trial, Tyrion brings up to Jaime that he should have known better than falling in love with a whore again, and Jaime quickly changes the subject once again.
6) Tyrion mentions to Oberyn when he says that he came for justice from Tywin Lannister, and says that's the only type of justice he'd receive.
And all this adds a total of 30 seconds before the reveal. Wish D&D had kept the whole Tysha plot and really think the readers would remember it if it were presented in this way.
I can deal with the lack of Stoneheart, but changing really the general direction of Tyrion's arc as a whole without the whole Tysha revelation has rubbed me the wrong way more than anything else done on the show. They could have brought it up on several occasions last season. On the top of my head times they could have reminded the audience.
1) Have Tyrion tell Sansa in the first episode about his first marriage.
2) When Sansa flees from Tyrion, Tyrion would bring up that this isn't the first wife he's been betrayed by, with Jaime giving him an uncomfortable smile.
3) Have Littlefinger tell Sansa not to pity Tyrion, since when he grew bored with his first wife, he handed her to his household guard and had her gang rapped.
4) When Jaime confronts Tywin about sparing Tyrion and the trial being a farse, when Tywin says this is justice, Jaime could bring up if what he made him do with Tyrion's first wife being justice, and Tywin stops him dead in his tracks and says he did what needed to be done to protect the family.
5) After the trial, Tyrion brings up to Jaime that he should have known better than falling in love with a whore again, and Jaime quickly changes the subject once again.
6) Tyrion mentions to Oberyn when he says that he came for justice from Tywin Lannister, and says that's the only type of justice he'd receive.
And all this adds a total of 30 seconds before the reveal. Wish D&D had kept the whole Tysha plot and really think the readers would remember it if it were presented in this way.
This post was edited on 4/1 at 7:21 am
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by PeteRose on 3/31/15 at 3:16 pm to OMLandshark
Especially they went through all the trouble in Season 1 to tell a backstory about Tyrion meeting her and then marrying her. If you include that then close it out. If you want to leave it out then do it altogether.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by TigerintheNO on 3/31/15 at 4:01 pm to OMLandshark
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Tysha is dead
Damn, I was thinking that Tysha is the sailor's wife and Lanna is Tyrion's child.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by OMLandshark on 3/31/15 at 4:22 pm to TigerintheNO
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Damn, I was thinking that Tysha is the sailor's wife and Lanna is Tyrion's child.
My point is that Alex Graves clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. He thinks Tyrion is from King's Landing for god's sake and that's why he knew the passage to Tywin's bedroom.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by OMLandshark on 3/31/15 at 4:24 pm to OMLandshark
Oh, and looks as if we may get another sample chapter soon: LINK
My bet is the controversial Sansa chapter he's been hinting at for years. I think D&D are getting to it this season, and he doesn't want them spoiling it. Keep in mind he released the Mercy chapter last year where Arya kills Raff the Sweetling, and since he didn't want D&D spoiling it, he put that chapter out.
My bet is the controversial Sansa chapter he's been hinting at for years. I think D&D are getting to it this season, and he doesn't want them spoiling it. Keep in mind he released the Mercy chapter last year where Arya kills Raff the Sweetling, and since he didn't want D&D spoiling it, he put that chapter out.
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by ladytiger118 on 3/31/15 at 5:27 pm to OMLandshark
I really hope he does release it.
This post was edited on 3/31 at 5:27 pm
re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERSPosted by Gugich22 on 4/1/15 at 10:27 am to ladytiger118
Anyone else see GRRM's tweet this morning?
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