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2002 Brazil vs 2008-2012 Spain
Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:40 pm
Since I've been thinking about it, I was curious to see other opinions. What would be the series record if they played ten times?
I wasn't sure which Spain team to include, so I thought I may as well give people more freedom with that one.
Since I don't expect people to remember this Brazil team quite as well, here's their starting lineup from the Final (per wikipedia):
------------------------ Marcos
--------- Lucio -- Edmilson -- Roque Junior
Cafu -- Gilberto Silva -- Kleberson -- Roberto Carlos
---------------------- Ronaldinho
------------------ Rivaldo -- Ronaldo
Subs:
GK Dida
GK Rogerio Ceni
MF Ricardinho
DF Juliano Belletti
DF Anderson Polga
DF Junior
MF Vampeta
MF Juninho
MF Kaka
FW Edilson
FW Denilson
FW Luizao
I wasn't sure which Spain team to include, so I thought I may as well give people more freedom with that one.
Since I don't expect people to remember this Brazil team quite as well, here's their starting lineup from the Final (per wikipedia):
------------------------ Marcos
--------- Lucio -- Edmilson -- Roque Junior
Cafu -- Gilberto Silva -- Kleberson -- Roberto Carlos
---------------------- Ronaldinho
------------------ Rivaldo -- Ronaldo
Subs:
GK Dida
GK Rogerio Ceni
MF Ricardinho
DF Juliano Belletti
DF Anderson Polga
DF Junior
MF Vampeta
MF Juninho
MF Kaka
FW Edilson
FW Denilson
FW Luizao
This post was edited on 7/2/12 at 12:41 pm
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:46 pm to ohiovol
Spain Team to use should be
------------Casillas-------------
Ramos---Pique---Puyol---Alba-----
----------Busquets---------------
--------Xavi-----Alonso--------
Silva------Villa-------Iniesta-----
Subs:
Valdes
Reina
Navas
Fabregas
Llorente
Torres
Pedro
Arbeloa
------------Casillas-------------
Ramos---Pique---Puyol---Alba-----
----------Busquets---------------
--------Xavi-----Alonso--------
Silva------Villa-------Iniesta-----
Subs:
Valdes
Reina
Navas
Fabregas
Llorente
Torres
Pedro
Arbeloa
Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:49 pm to Harry Pitts
Those are two disgustingly good teams.
Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:55 pm to BraveTiger225
Goal fest, however Brazil play with that mentality and would therefore win
Posted on 7/2/12 at 1:01 pm to ohiovol
ronaldo was still in his prime and ronaldinho was about to make that leap and signed for barca the following summer. lucio was a very good defender. fabio costa was an underrated brazilian keeper of that time IMHO. always liked him more than marcos.
honestly not sure who i'd take. i guess i'd consider where the 10 matches were to be played.
Posted on 7/2/12 at 1:02 pm to S
quote:
honestly not sure who i'd take. i guess i'd consider where the 10 matches were to be played.
Assume either at a neutral site or 5 at home for each team.
Posted on 7/2/12 at 1:06 pm to ohiovol
Sure this can be arranged in FIFA soccer somehow
Posted on 7/2/12 at 1:16 pm to ohiovol
I'd probably take Spain at full strength more times than not because of World Cup and Champions League winner Roque Junior and Kleberson
Posted on 7/2/12 at 5:28 pm to ohiovol
Cafu and Carlos 
Spain would have their hands full
Spain would have their hands full
Posted on 7/2/12 at 9:23 pm to ohiovol
I feel like Spain would definitely have the advantage at keeper. Brazil would have an enormous advantage at forward. Defense and midfield are a little harder to determine. I would probably take Spain's bench, but I don't remember enough of the Brazilian bench players to feel confident about that.
Spain might be more balanced, but that Brazil team had ridiculous star power. I'd expect the 2002 Brazilians to win more than they lose if the teams played ten times.
Spain might be more balanced, but that Brazil team had ridiculous star power. I'd expect the 2002 Brazilians to win more than they lose if the teams played ten times.
This post was edited on 7/3/12 at 7:49 am
Posted on 7/2/12 at 11:48 pm to ohiovol
Spain just went the whole of Euro 2012 conceding one goal, they've conceded 0 goals in knockout football since 2006.
It's Spain.
It's Spain.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 12:09 am to Mephistopheles
quote:
Spain just went the whole of Euro 2012 conceding one goal, they've conceded 0 goals in knockout football since 2006. It's Spain.
Well that's just wrong. USA scored 2 on them whilest knocking them out in 09
Posted on 7/3/12 at 12:19 am to ohiovol
You forgot 2012 England.
Or is it that other TN guy on here that has a hard-on for da 3 lionz.
Or is it that other TN guy on here that has a hard-on for da 3 lionz.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 7:29 am to Mephistopheles
quote:
Spain just went the whole of Euro 2012 conceding one goal, they've conceded 0 goals in knockout football since 2006.
True, but:
a) Brazil was much stronger offensively (Ronaldo had as many goals at the 2002 World Cup as Spain did at the 2010 World Cup)
b) 2002 Brazil is the only team in World Cup history to go 7-0-0
c) The only goal they conceded in knockout play was on a fluke error by Lucio.
Spain certainly has advantages, though.
This post was edited on 7/3/12 at 7:46 am
Posted on 7/3/12 at 7:30 am to acgeaux129
quote:
You forgot 2012 England.
Or is it that other TN guy on here that has a hard-on for da 3 lionz.
Believe me, you're thinking of someone else.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 7:35 am to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:
Well that's just wrong. USA scored 2 on them whilest knocking them out in 09
While Americans love that they beat Spain in the Confederations Cup, when people talk about international tournaments, nobody cares about it
Posted on 7/3/12 at 7:48 am to engvol
quote:
While Americans love that they beat Spain in the Confederations Cup, when people talk about international tournaments, nobody cares about it
While I'm not going to pretend the Confederations Cup is a major international tournament, it was a very impressive win.
This post was edited on 7/3/12 at 7:50 am
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:59 am to engvol
quote:
While Americans love that they beat Spain in the Confederations Cup, when people talk about international tournaments, nobody cares about it
Spain cared enough to field their A team in that tourney...
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:02 am to ATL_Tiger
quote:
Spain cared enough to field their A team in that tourney...
This.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:05 am to engvol
quote:
While Americans love that they beat Spain in the Confederations Cup, when people talk about international tournaments, nobody cares about it
That's great and all, but that doesn't change the fact that the previous statement was wrong.
It was a knockout game in a major tournament, even if the tournament is under the other 2 in importance the statement said knockout games since 06. Spain & the US both had their A team. All there is to it, pretty simple.
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