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Barnes over MKG ..?

Posted on 6/28/12 at 1:48 pm
Posted by SaintNation
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Posted on 6/28/12 at 1:48 pm
Am I the only one that thinks Barnes is the way better prospect? Barnes is bigger and has a NBA caliber shot. Although MKG has better defensive game and has a more physical, I don't see how his game is going to transfer in the NBA. If you watched him play and the majority of his highlights, he relied on put backs and a low post game that IMO will not work against NBA talent and height. It seems it would be a lot easier to teach Barnes to play better defense than to teach MKG to shoot and have an offensive game. I just don't get the MKG hype, reminds me of tyrus Thomas. Thoughts?
Posted by CQQ
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Posted on 6/28/12 at 1:52 pm to
I'd rather Barnes but would take either. But it really doesn't matter..
Posted by bddwolfpack
NYC
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Posted on 6/28/12 at 1:53 pm to
For all those who hate on Drummond or PJIII for lack of effort or falling asleep on the court, Barnes is worse.

MKG > Barnes for the simple fact that MKG is a harder worker and wants it more
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Am I the only one that thinks Barnes is the way better prospect? Barnes is bigger and has a NBA caliber shot. Although MKG has better defensive game and has a more physical, I don't see how his game is going to transfer in the NBA. If you watched him play and the majority of his highlights, he relied on put backs and a low post game that IMO will not work against NBA talent and height. It seems it would be a lot easier to teach Barnes to play better defense than to teach MKG to shoot and have an offensive game. I just don't get the MKG hype, reminds me of tyrus Thomas. Thoughts?


Everything that I've heard or read of when the guys go head up against each other, MKG always gets the better of Barnes. Plus he's a year + younger than Barnes

Whether it was HS camps, UK vs UNC, per draft workings, etc. MKG always comes out on top.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:02 pm to
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For all those who hate on Drummond or PJIII for lack of effort or falling asleep on the court, Barnes is worse.


Not even close
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:04 pm to
Wants it more?.....how do you know this they are18 years old.? Barnes has way more ability to take over a game. Just bc he was maybe timid at times doesn't mean he didn't want it. He was still a freshman...IMO he will learn to turn it on...even with all of MKG effort I just don't see that he has any tools to take over a game. Just bc someone has the "want" to be great doesn't mean they have the talent. Hell I have more want to play but that sure as hell doesn't make me good!
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:05 pm to
MKG shits on Barnes.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:05 pm to
darryljames thinks anyone who thinks MKG is > Barnes is fricking stupid.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:16 pm to
At least someone agrees with me, Barnes is way better MKG. It's not even close IMO.
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:17 pm to
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Everything that I've heard or read of when the guys go head up against each other, MKG always gets the better of Barnes. Plus he's a year + younger than Barnes Whether it was HS camps, UK vs UNC, per draft workings, etc. MKG always comes out on top.


So just bc you get beat one on one doesn't mean your the better player...I think MKG is more physical and aid more mature so yes he probably will get the better of Barnes in camps and college but just bc MKG defense is more well rounded right now, Barnes can get tougher but can MkG develop a shot? I don't think so. Can he get by driving and putting up tip backs with out anthony Davis? I don't see it
I think they are close right now but going forward I think Barnes has more to work with at the next level....Younan not teach someone to shoot and MKG just flat out cant shoot IMO
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:19 pm to
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darryljames thinks anyone who thinks MKG is > Barnes is fricking stupid.

Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28878 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:19 pm to
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Can he get by driving and putting up tip backs with out anthony Davis?


he wouldn't be without AD
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14981 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:21 pm to
Yeah Darryl has a major hard on for Barnes
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28724 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:21 pm to
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For all those who hate on Drummond or PJIII for lack of effort or falling asleep on the court, Barnes is worse.


That's ridiculous, just look at the stats and that will tell you that's not true. You don't average 17+ a game by falling asleep on the court.
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:22 pm to
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he wouldn't be without AD


Lol well you have a point, I don't see him sliding, but Barnes could slide to 6 or 7 and I would find a way to go get him.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

For all those who hate on Drummond or PJIII for lack of effort or falling asleep on the court, Barnes is worse.

MKG > Barnes for the simple fact that MKG is a harder worker and wants it more


This. MKG is known to have a VERY good work ethic. Compound that with his good ball skills and great athleticism and I believe he could be really special. Plus he is the youngest player in the draft
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:26 pm to
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That's ridiculous, just look at the stats and that will tell you that's not true. You don't average 17+ a game by falling asleep on the court.


Thank you, if he sleep walks and gets 17 a game well damn that just proves the point...since an you imagine when he turns it all the way on
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:30 pm to
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Younan not teach someone to shoot and MKG just flat out cant shoot IMO


yes you can. Fundamentals, hard work, time in the gym. You can most certainly teach someone to shoot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

MKG > Barnes for the simple fact that MKG is a harder worker and wants it more

Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27681 posts
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:36 pm to
I'd take Barnes, but think MKG has the bigger ceiling (also has the bigger bust potential).
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