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Javi vs. Joe: You Decide

Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:44 pm
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:44 pm
Joe Pennucci

Joe Pennucci recently completed his fifth season as an assistant coach on Matt Senk's staff and serves as the team's recruiting coordinator. Pennucci also works with the hitters and is responsible for overall team defense, working individually with the infielders and catchers.

Under Pennucci's guidance, the 2011 Seawolves ranked first in the country in doubles per game (2.7), ninth in batting average (.316) and 11th in scoring (7.2 runs per game). Carmona and Travis Jankowski also finished the season, first and second, respectively, in the America East in batting average.

Pennucci has also shown that he is among the best defensive coaches in the country as the Seawolves led the country with a .985 fielding percentage in 2011. The Seawolves shined defensively in 2010 as well, ranking 30th in the country with a .973 fielding percentage.

As the recruiting coordinator, Pennucci has helped attract student-athletes of the highest athletic and academic caliber to Long Island. In the five classes that Pennucci has assembled, he has recruited some of the top players from the Northeast region, as well as Canada, California, and Florida.

Javi Sanchez

Javi Sanchez enters his fifth season at LSU after helping lead the Tigers to the 2009 national championship and two College World Series appearances in the past four seasons. Sanchez worked as LSU's volunteer coach during the 2008 season, and he was promoted to full-time assistant coach on June 26, 2008.

Sanchez serves as the Tigers' hitting coach while supervising the baserunning and working extensively with the LSU catchers. He also works as the Tigers' third-base coach during games.

Sanchez coached an LSU lineup in 2011 that finished in the Top 5 in the SEC in nine different offensive categories, including runs scored (388, No. 2) and batting average (.303, No. 3). Outfielder Mikie Mahtook flourished under Sanchez's tutelage, earning first-team All-America honors before being selected in the first round of the 2011 MLB Draft by Tampa Bay.

Three of Sanchez's hitters were selected in the first eight rounds of the 2010 MLB Draft - catcher Micah Gibbs (3rd round), outfielder Leon Landry (3rd round) and first baseman Blake Dean (8th round). The 2010 Tigers appeared in the Top 5 of 12 different SEC offensive categories.

Sanchez worked behind the plate for three seasons with Gibbs, a 2010 All-America selection, a 2009 ABCA Gold Glove winner and the starting catcher for the 2008 United States National?Team.

Sanchez supervised an LSU lineup in 2009 that produced some of the best offensive numbers in Fighting Tiger history. LSU finished the season No. 2 in the nation in hits (783) and No. 3 in runs (575). The Tigers were also fourth in the nation in walks (350) and eighth in home runs (107).

The 2009 Tigers were No. 1 in the SEC in hits, runs, walks, total bases (1284), RBI (532), doubles (142), triples (19) and stolen bases (114). LSU led the league in hits for the first time since 2004.

Sanchez supervised the development of five players selected in the first 11 rounds of the 2009 MLB Draft -- OF Jared Mitchell (1st round), 2B DJ LeMahieu (2nd round), INF Ryan Schimpf (5th round), OF Blake Dean (10th round) and INF/C Sean Ochinko (11th round).

Under Sanchez's direction, the Tiger base runners swiped 114 bases in 2009, marking the most steals by an LSU?squad since 1994 (116 steals).


Notice that most of the accolades for Javi are for the 2009 team which, admittedly, are impressive.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:45 pm to
Neither. Bring back Beetle Bailey
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47452 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:45 pm to
God
Joe
Smoke
Malveto
Dirt
Javi
Posted by Joe Joe Joe
Givin' Him the Business
Member since Oct 2007
5745 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

Notice that most of the accolades for Javi are for the 2009 team which, admittedly, are impressive.

And whose major contributors were guys that had been in the program for 2-3 years before Javi was responsible for them.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71597 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

Bring back Beetle Bailey


That'll be difficult
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33934 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:47 pm to
If they don't translate into W's then the stats don't matter. Something needs to be done about hitting and base running.
Posted by GoldenBoy
Winning!
Member since Nov 2004
42010 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:48 pm to
You failed to mention Javi's steak marinade which is delicious.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28338 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:49 pm to
Didn't realize Leon Landry was drafted in the 3rd round.
Posted by TheOfficial
Member since Feb 2005
1376 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:50 pm to
What I gather is he looks good when we have talent and not so much so when don't?
Posted by adamb0940
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
376 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

Bring back Beetle Bailey


He died in 05...
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4128 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:01 am to
How about this for thought:

Jankowski - undrafted out of HS

Jankowski, ranked No. 33 on MLB.com's Draft list, didn't have the high-school dilemma that many prospects experience. He went undrafted and unrecruited while at Lancaster Catholic in Pennsylvania

There was no expectation, and perhaps more important, no precedent. When Travis Jankowski enrolled at Stony Brook University, he never could have imagined the maturation and the baseball development that would lead to him being a potential top-round talent.
Posted by TemplarTheSaint
The Vatican
Member since Oct 2011
704 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:01 am to
quote:

Sanchez supervised .......


WTF does that mean? he didn't recruit, coach, or develop - He babysat?

Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4128 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:07 am to
William Carmona

2009 Rank: 1,209 (drafted in 11th rd this year)
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71597 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:09 am to
quote:

William Carmona
Ht: 5-9
Wt: 175


Hmmmm he's gotten a lot bigger since HS.
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4128 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:15 am to
Maxx Tissenbaum

or as I like to call him: Tits-n-Beer

Ok, this kid had some talent coming out of the Great White North. Drafted in the 49th by Toronto in 2009. Beauty, eh?!

He was selected in the 11th rd this year.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9204 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:09 am to
quote:

Ok, this kid had some talent coming out of the Great White North. Drafted in the 49th by Toronto in 2009. Beauty, eh?!

He was selected in the 11th rd this year.


You act like this is unusual, when it is the status quo for many baseball players.

quote:

Brandon Beachy, RHP, Atlanta: Beachy was an amazing story in 2011 as a former non-drafted pitcher signed out of an independent baseball league. But he may have also set overly high expectations that he won’t be able to reach again. The right-hander has good stuff, but his success comes more from a deceptive delivery and superb command. His fastball averages 92 mph and he’s mostly a two-pitch pitcher with his changeup coming in as a distant third pitch in terms of quality. As the scouting reports circulate through the league and hitters become more comfortable facing Beachy, the right-hander will likely settle in as a solid No. 3 starter. Don’t expect him to keep pitching like an ace.


LINK

Beachy is a grinder and took # 7 overall pick Mike Minor's job and is growing into a solid #2-3 starter. Minor, OTOH, has yet to come close to meeting expectations, but maybe one day. College and MLB recruiters miss diamonds in the rough every year, get over it.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27828 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:18 am to
quote:

Hmmmm he's gotten a lot bigger since HS.

Is 50 pounds on a 5'9 frame considered a lot?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71597 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:22 am to
For a baseball player yes.
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4128 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:27 am to
Point isn't that the kid was a diamond in the rough. I simply grabbed these players because they are three of the bigger names from SB who were drafted fairly high this year and to illustrate the point that Joe has done an outstanding job of developing talent. When this team came in, I assumed that the inflated team BA was a product of playing in a weak conference. It may actually be higher after the last two weeks. The team was disciplined and hit extremely well, 1-9. That's coaching.

LSU is the premiere baseball program in America. We have the facilities, the fanbase, and the financing to continue that. We're in a talent-rich area. Dunn has done an outstanding job with the pitchers. We need someone of the same caliber to develop our hitters. That is all.
This post was edited on 6/11/12 at 1:34 am
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27828 posts
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:27 am to
I think it would for pretty much any kind of player.
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