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corndeaux  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2009 3014 posts

| Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 8:19 am)
Found these on Twitter from a guy who writes on SacTown Royalty. Nice to have it all in one place. Here's a Glossary for the categories LINK A couple of thoughts: -TRob is a DREB machine. He would fit very with Monty -Drummond is a pretty good shot blocker -The wings at the top don't really stand out much to me just from looking at advanced statistics. Obviously that is not the only consideration. -Lillard's TS% is outrageous and his TOV% is remarkable for a guy handling the ball so much. If he shows up at pre-draft workouts, he may not be around at 10. Guards: Basic Advanced Wings: Basic Advanced Bigs: Basic Advanced
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TigerinATL  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Feb 2005 26149 posts
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| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 8:24 am to corndeaux)
Nice find 
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corndeaux  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2009 3014 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 8:37 am to TigerinATL)
Any time. It's been a long 3 weeks. Just want the ping pong balls to drop so we can have a clearer picture. 
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Jester  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2006 15668 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 8:54 am to TigerinATL)
I had to adjust the basic stats to be more representative. I basically broke their important stats down by 40 for the bigs, which is where the top pick will likely be used. Points per 40: 1 Andrew Nicholson 2 Tyler Zeller 3 Jared Sullinger 4 Thomas Robinson 5 Ricardo Ratliffe 6 Kevin Jones 7 Kyle O'Quinn 8 Draymond Green 9 JaMychal Green 10 John Henson 11 Arnett Moultrie 12 Drew Gordon 13 Anthony Davis 14 Perry Jones 15 Festus Ezeli 16 Meyers Leonard 17 Royce White 18 Henry Sims 19 Terrence Jones 20 Andre Drummond 21 Fab Melo Rebounds per 40: 1 Thomas Robinson 2 Drew Gordon 3 Tyler Zeller 4 John Henson 5 Kyle O'Quinn 6 Anthony Davis 7 Draymond Green 8 Jared Sullinger 9 Royce White 10 Arnett Moultrie 11 Ricardo Ratliffe 12 Kevin Jones 13 Andrew Nicholson 14 Andre Drummond 15 Meyers Leonard 16 Festus Ezeli 17 JaMychal Green 18 Perry Jones 19 Terrence Jones 20 Fab Melo 21 Henry Sims Blocks per 40: 1 Anthony Davis 2 Fab Melo 3 John Henson 4 Andre Drummond 5 Kyle O'Quinn 6 Festus Ezeli 7 Andrew Nicholson 8 Terrence Jones 9 Meyers Leonard 10 Tyler Zeller 11 JaMychal Green 12 Henry Sims 13 Ricardo Ratliffe 14 Jared Sullinger 15 Drew Gordon 16 Royce White 17 Thomas Robinson 18 Draymond Green 19 Kevin Jones 20 Arnett Moultrie 21 Perry Jones Fouls per 40 (#1 means least fouls per 40): 1 Kevin Jones 2 John Henson 3 Arnett Moultrie 4 Anthony Davis 5 Drew Gordon 6 Perry Jones 7 Andre Drummond 8 Terrence Jones 9 Royce White 10 Draymond Green 11 Thomas Robinson 12 Meyers Leonard 13 Andrew Nicholson 14 Jared Sullinger 15 Tyler Zeller 16 Henry Sims 17 Ricardo Ratliffe 18 Kyle O'Quinn 19 JaMychal Green 20 Fab Melo 21 Festus Ezeli Any other categories you want sorted by 40?
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corndeaux  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2009 3014 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:18 am to Jester)
Awesome work. That is incredible. Thanks
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Jester  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2006 15668 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:26 am to corndeaux)
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Awesome work. That is incredible. Thanks
It was actually pretty easy. Thankfully whoever created those links allowed download of the spreadsheets. Excel is my good friend.
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Jester  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2006 15668 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:43 am to Jester)
That said, I didn't expect Melo to be so poorly ranked in all categories save Blocks.
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corndeaux  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2009 3014 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:03 am to Jester)
Yes. It is shocking. He is much more of a project than I thought. Ezeli is another guy who disappoints me with his numbers. I know he was injured, but everything other than blocks is underwhelming. As for doing the numbers- I would have taken all day trying to do that. Excel may be your friend, but math is not mine
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drake20  New Orleans Saints Fan Baton Rouge Member since Oct 2005 7487 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:10 am to corndeaux)
awesome post corndeaux and nice work jester
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drake20  New Orleans Saints Fan Baton Rouge Member since Oct 2005 7487 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:14 am to Jester)
top 3 bigs all look pretty good...T Rob's blocks per 40 is a little disappointing. that's not his game though. ...Henson's per 40 stats are pretty impressive
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TigerinATL  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Feb 2005 26149 posts
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| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:17 am to drake20)
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Henson's per 40 stats are pretty impressive
I know SFP has talked about drafting him with the Minny pick and said he thinks Henson can become a pretty good defensive center if you give him a few years to add weight. The stats seem to back that up as a good strategy if he lasts until 10.
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Jester  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2006 15668 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:45 am to drake20)
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.T Rob's blocks per 40 is a little disappointing. that's not his game though.
It honestly does not disappoint me at all. I think blocks may be the most overvalued stat in post players. A block does not equal good defense. A block is only useful if you come away with possession. It seems some college bigs overemphasize help defense, which increases blocks, but hurts overall team defense and even more alarmingly, rebounding. They leave their man to block a shot and now you have a 4 or 5 standing on the low block with a wing wrapped around him.
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Jester  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2006 15668 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:48 am to TigerinATL)
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I know SFP has talked about drafting him with the Minny pick and said he thinks Henson can become a pretty good defensive center if you give him a few years to add weight. The stats seem to back that up as a good strategy if he lasts until 10.
I'm sure we're not the only ones looking at these numbers. Scouts have dug even deeper. That said, I would be really happy with Henson at 10.
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RonFNSwanson  LSU Fan Browtown Member since Mar 2012 11889 posts
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| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:08 am to Jester)
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I think blocks may be the most overvalued stat in post players. A block does not equal good defense. A block is only useful if you come away with possession. It seems some college bigs overemphasize help defense, which increases blocks, but hurts overall team defense and even more alarmingly, rebounding. They leave their man to block a shot and now you have a 4 or 5 standing on the low block with a wing wrapped around him.
This. Normally people who get blocks are trailing plays. In the case of AD, well he is just a beast.
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Eman5805  LSU Fan West Bank Member since Nov 2010 2586 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:20 pm to RonFNSwanson)
Lillard. Man this dude needs to be a New Orleans basketball team uni.
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OceanMan  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 1897 posts
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| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:53 pm to Eman5805)
Solid work fellas and thisquote:
Lillard. Man this dude needs to be a New Orleans basketball team uni.
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corndeaux  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2009 3014 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 4:52 pm to Jester)
On blocks: Agree completely that it can be an overrated stat. How many of Ibakas blocks last night went back to LA? I wish they kept a stat on the result of the block. Possession change, missed shot, made shot, etc.
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floridatigah  LSU Fan FL Member since Oct 2004 5395 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 5:11 pm to corndeaux)
Thanks for the links. I think someone is going to get a steal in the 2nd with Jae Crowder. Top 5 in every category for the wings. Doesn't have good size but he seems like he'll be a great player off the bench for 10 years.
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Mr. West  Northwestern St. Fan Member since Feb 2012 160 posts

| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 5:54 pm to floridatigah)
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Jae Crowder
I've been hoping we trade into the second round for this guy for a while.
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JayJay2  West Virginia Fan cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne Member since Jul 2010 8587 posts
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| re: Spreadsheets of Basic and Advanced Stats for Potential Draftees (Posted on 5/17/12 at 6:39 pm to Mr. West)
Yeah, I'd like him in the second round or drew gordon
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