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Boat Guru's - Is this transom cap as bad as it looks?

Posted on 4/29/12 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 3:39 pm
Early 90's Kingfisher 154XL 15' bass boat I am looking at restoring. Has a great running 88HP Evinrude, and the boat is in very sound shape from what I can tell. My only concern is the metal peice on top of the transom that has pulled away from the fiberglass.

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This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 4:13 pm
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11312 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 3:47 pm to
You can't view those pics without being a member
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 3:56 pm to
Damn I failed hard on that one, there is an angled metal strip across the top of the transom that is (was) screwed into the fiberglass and the motor sits over it. The metal strip has pulled away and ripped the screws out of the fiberglass. Just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience.
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
Member since Aug 2011
7090 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Early 90's Kingfisher 154XL 15' bass boat I am looking at restoring.



Why would you wanna restore that?


We need pics dammit. Come on newb.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:13 pm to
Got to have pictures. But I know of what piece of metal you are talking about. Remove it and then stick a screwdriver into it to see if you have any rot below that metal strip. You can also drill a few 3/8" holes on the inside of the transom at the bottom to see if you have any rot. NOTE! if you do the later, reglass those spots and DO NOT go all the way thru. Just enough to break thru the fiberglass to the point of seeing the core of the transom.

If good, apply a bead of silcone and then reapply the metal strip.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 4:57 pm to
Pics delivered, sorry about that. I will pull the motor and do the screwdriver / icepick test. Hopefully it isn't rotten but I highly doubt it.
Posted by W
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6100 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:05 pm to
My cap looks about the same. '89 Glastron/Carlson CVX-16. Outboard 150. I'm always mentally and physically prepared for the worst but keep her launched for the good times.

I even take on a good amount of water. Make sure your bilge is always kicking and have fun. Everything dies sooner or later.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:49 pm to
its an easy fix brother.

get two strong friends or a come along and a good tree.

lift outboard off of the transom.
unscrew the metal
check for rot as above
take a planer and a sander and smooth the underlying transom.
coat with a clean coat of fiberglass and resin.
apply a thin line of acrylic epoxy or 100% silicone replace the cap and screw down. then replace motor.

1 day job.
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 7:51 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

get two strong friends or a come along and a good tree.

lift outboard off of the transom.
unscrew the metal
take a planer and a sander and smooth the underlying transom.
coat with a clean coat of fiberglass and resin.
apply a thin line of acrylic epoxy or 100% silicone replace the cap and screw down. then replace motor.



Can't go wrong with this approach. Take your time and do a good job.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:52 pm to
sadly when I did it, it involved chiseling out the mostly rotten transom, and then replacing and glassing in from the inside.

total boat restoration was 14 months.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:56 pm to
I thought about typing something about how he might not like what he sees under that cap, but I don't want to share too many boat owners secrets.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24944 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 8:12 pm to
If that strip is pulling away I would bet your transome is rotted.

ETA: pull on the motor and see if there is any movement.
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:50 pm to
Thanks for the replies and tips. When I pull on the motor there is actually no flex, so I have high hopes. I plan on pulling the motor this week and assessing the damage underneath the metal trim. I am just in fear that it will be rotten and shut my whole project down.
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3769 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:58 pm to
i've seen this happen to a boat before, if that strip is not sealed...and the boat is in the water alot, water will get in...you definitely need to pull it off and check for rot and just because it doesn't flex doesn't mean it won't go out on you in a year or two...have you checked the bolts that hold the motor on the inside of the transom? or the hooks on the transom itself? if you see any indication where it looks like something has been running out of it (would be the glue between the wood and the fiberglass), the transom is on its way out...another way to check it is to put your hand on the transom and tap it with a rubber hammer in different spots...if you feel any vibration at all, you have a rot spot

eta...judging from the pics i don't think you'll like what you're gonna find...a transom cost north of 3k to get rebuilt by a professional, unless you know how to do that kind of stuff yourself
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 4/29/12 at 11:19 pm to
unless you have a strange transom there is no glue between the fiberglass and the wood.

Changing out a transom is not too expensive if you have time on your hands and a never quit attitude. It is easiest if you can get to the front side of the transom. If you have to change it out let me know and I can walk you through how I did it in my old Skeeter.
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