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Will the BIG 10 surpass the Big 12 as the second best conference in 2ish years?
Posted on 4/18/12 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 4/18/12 at 9:13 pm
Michigan rising quickly
Michigan State staying where they are
Ohio State
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Penn State may have made a home-run hire, its showing on the recruiting trail
They've easily got the 2nd best collection of coaches right now
Michigan State staying where they are
Ohio State
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Penn State may have made a home-run hire, its showing on the recruiting trail
They've easily got the 2nd best collection of coaches right now
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Posted on 4/18/12 at 9:15 pm to Tigerbait337
Number 1 brah
In basketball
In basketball
Posted on 4/18/12 at 9:35 pm to Tigerbait337
Name a team worth a shite after OU, OSU, and Texas in the Big 12. I think its already happened depth wise. Still think the Big 12 has more than enough at the top to beat the best of the Big 10 though.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 9:38 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:West Virginia & TCU starting this Fall.
Name a team worth a shite after OU, OSU, and Texas in the Big 12.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 9:39 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
TCU. Remember, that team took out the Big 10 Champ 2 years ago. It's harder to gauge, because the Big 10 is defense oriented, so the league tends to look better because of the lower scores. Kansas State and Iowa State were pretty salty last year. And West Virginia looks like they'll fit right in the Big 12. Right now, I'd say they are even with the Big 12 having the slightly better top. But, OU and Texas are powers and Michigan and tOSU being pretty much equal. The main difference is OkSU, and with TCU and WVU, I think the Big 12 will be better in the future, if they stay together.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 9:41 pm to Truculent Typist
quote:
West Virginia & TCU starting this Fall.
WVU will decent and might contend. TCU will be like Baylor and be lucky to win 6-8 games a year
Posted on 4/18/12 at 9:42 pm to big Tiger 1885
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TCU will be like Baylor
Doubtful. They have money, are in fertile recruiting ground, and an elite HC. They took out Wisconsin in 2010 and people were touting Wisconsin for a chance in the NC.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:08 pm to Tigerbait337
With the recruiting classes Hoke and Meyer are putting together, the next few years of The Game should pretty fun to watch.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:31 pm to Tigerbait337
No our nations shifting population base will continue to hurt rust belt recruiting combined with the emphasis on academics and refusal to over sign, the big ten will still struggle on the national stage on a championship level.
That being said 4 of the 5 blue chippers that bounced after verbaling to PSU landed at Ohio State. It looks as if the hire in Happy Valley will negate the consolidated high school effect anticapated with the PA/NJ/MD kids going to OSU thanks to Uncle Jer
That being said 4 of the 5 blue chippers that bounced after verbaling to PSU landed at Ohio State. It looks as if the hire in Happy Valley will negate the consolidated high school effect anticapated with the PA/NJ/MD kids going to OSU thanks to Uncle Jer
This post was edited on 4/18/12 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:55 pm to KillianRussell
quote:
No our nations shifting population base will continue to hurt rust belt recruiting
No offense but do you follow what's going on in the world or just spout what others say?
1) Florida's population may be near its peak and several analysts are predicting a population decline for Florida in the next decade or so.
2) There is a manufacturing rebirth in the US and that rebirth is squarely in those rust belt states you are bashing. The population base shift you are touting may be at an end.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:01 pm to VABuckeye
The population in New York,Ohio,Illinios Pennsylvania, Michigan etc. is dropping has been dropping for two decades (google electoral vote shifts) while increasing in median age.
I am sorry I offended you with this fact.
Where is the link proving manufacturing is moving out of the sun belt to the unionized north
I am sorry I offended you with this fact.
Where is the link proving manufacturing is moving out of the sun belt to the unionized north
This post was edited on 4/18/12 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 4/19/12 at 5:23 am to Tigerbait337
Defense wins championships...
1- SEC
2- BIG 10
3- BIG 12
4- PAC 12
5- ACC
6- BIG east
1- SEC
2- BIG 10
3- BIG 12
4- PAC 12
5- ACC
6- BIG east
Posted on 4/19/12 at 6:21 am to bigeztiger
quote:
Defense wins championships...
Before Penn State's bowl game, the announcer's kept talking about the tough D played in the Big 10 and about how PSU was a top ten pass defense in the country - then Houston put up well over 500 yards passing against them and embarrassed them with a bunch of WRs that were passed over by every Big 12 team.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:38 am to Tigerbait337
recruiting is the name of the game.
B10= Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Not much else.
So.... NO. Tex > Penn + Ohio
Meyer will recruit nationally (at least New Jersey and Florida), but that wont help Wisconsin and Nebraska.
This post was edited on 4/19/12 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:21 am to ottothewise
quote:
B10= Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Not much else.
PA esp western PA is not turning out the kids it used to, most the time they are over rated and don't pan out like just 10 years ago
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:37 am to VABuckeye
You say:
and follow with
There's some new economic action in the rust belt due to Marcellus and Utica shale production, but this "manufacturing rebirth" you're referring to is not only wildly overstated, its not happening in the rust belt.
quote:
No offense but do you follow what's going on in the world or just spout what others say?
and follow with
quote:
2) There is a manufacturing rebirth in the US and that rebirth is squarely in those rust belt states you are bashing. The population base shift you are touting may be at an end.
There's some new economic action in the rust belt due to Marcellus and Utica shale production, but this "manufacturing rebirth" you're referring to is not only wildly overstated, its not happening in the rust belt. 
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:44 am to VABuckeye
quote:
1) Florida's population may be near its peak and several analysts are predicting a population decline for Florida in the next decade or so.
Did not know Florida was the only state not in the rust belt. Interesting. Also, haven't since a lot about this theory.
What about population out West?
quote:
2) There is a manufacturing rebirth in the US and that rebirth is squarely in those rust belt states you are bashing. The population base shift you are touting may be at an end.
Can't speak for all manufacturing, but car manufacturers are moving south.
Kia just opened a $1 Billion dollar manufacturing plant in Georgia.
Toyota just opened a $40M plant in Mississippi.
Volkswagen has built or is still building a new plant in Tennessee.
South Carolina has a $2.2 Billion BMW plant.
Posted on 4/19/12 at 10:51 am to bigeztiger
quote:
Defense wins championships...
we got to take them one game at a time
Posted on 4/19/12 at 11:08 am to A. Hidell
you are seriously using penn state, with all that they went through, and blaming them for their bowl game?
the top of the big ten needs to prove themselves better than the top of the big 12 though because i don't see that as the case
the top of the big ten needs to prove themselves better than the top of the big 12 though because i don't see that as the case
Posted on 4/19/12 at 11:19 am to Tigerbait337
Premise is faulty...
Pac 12 - Mike Leach, Rich Rod, Jim Mora, Kiffin, Kelly, Sark, Whittingham...conference is about to explode.
Not to mention the Big 12's best team last year barely beat the 3rd best Pac 12 team in the Fiesta...crappy UCLA owns Texas...and Oklahoma has historic problems beating Oregon and USC.
Never understood the Big 12 pedestal. B1G will be #2, Big 12 #3.
Pac 12 - Mike Leach, Rich Rod, Jim Mora, Kiffin, Kelly, Sark, Whittingham...conference is about to explode.
Not to mention the Big 12's best team last year barely beat the 3rd best Pac 12 team in the Fiesta...crappy UCLA owns Texas...and Oklahoma has historic problems beating Oregon and USC.
Never understood the Big 12 pedestal. B1G will be #2, Big 12 #3.
This post was edited on 4/19/12 at 11:24 am
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