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Trends in NBA draft lottery
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:01 am
For reference, since 1990, when the NBA moved to a weighted draft lottery, only 3 teams with the worst record have one the lottery, while the second and third worst teams have one 4 times each, the fifth worst team has won 5 times in this span.
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:07 am to OceanMan
we've discussed it a few times. it's the primary reason i'm not behind the tank.
:inb4TTTbuteveryyearisanewyeartrendsdontmeananything:
ETA: but it's good to remind everyone of why we don't need to lose every game
:inb4TTTbuteveryyearisanewyeartrendsdontmeananything:
ETA: but it's good to remind everyone of why we don't need to lose every game
This post was edited on 4/10/12 at 9:08 am
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:23 am to quail man
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the second and third worst teams have one 4 times each
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it's the primary reason i'm not behind the tank.
But we need to keep tanking if we want to stay in that second and third place spot.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:35 am to Suntiger
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But we need to keep tanking if we want to stay in that second and third place spot.
4th place has won it more than either of those, though.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:51 am to Jester
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4th place has won it more than either of those, though.
Each spot we fall we are able to fall that much further in the lottery. If we have the worst record, the worst pick we can get is 4th, if we have the second worst pick the worst pick we can get is 5th, if we have the third worst record the worst pick we can get is 6th, and so on...
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:55 am to Slickback
The lottery is only 3 picks. After that, you are "slotted." You are correct in that respect. However, everyone wanted to "tank" for Davis, not a chance at Barnes versus Beal.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:00 am to Jester
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The lottery is only 3 picks. After that, you are "slotted." You are correct in that respect.
Aren't the odds weighted for the teams with the worst record though?
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:07 am to Suntiger
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Aren't the odds weighted for the teams with the worst record though?
Supposedly... There have always been grumblings that it is rigged (Lebron to Cleveland).
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:12 am to Jester
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(Lebron to Cleveland).
Kyrie Irving to Cleveland from the 8 spot after Cleveland got LeBronned.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:13 am to Jester
A better example of rigging would be the most infamous: Ewing to the Knicks.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:18 am to Fun Bunch
Derrick Rose to the Bulls
The league needed to Bulls to be relevant again.
The league needed to Bulls to be relevant again.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:28 am to OceanMan
Dont mean to be a dick but its "won" not one
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:39 am to MrPappagiorgio
I'm all for rigging. Who got screwed by a star leaving them this year? Washington has Wall. Charlette has Jordan. We have nothing to sell right now. And I'm sure Stern wants to say he left the Hornets in a better spot than he found them.
Ewing to the NYK
LeBron to Cleveland
Rose to Chicago
Davis to New Orleans
Ewing to the NYK
LeBron to Cleveland
Rose to Chicago
Davis to New Orleans
Posted on 4/10/12 at 11:53 am to Suntiger
If you sincerely believe that having the worst record means we are LESS likely to win the lottery, then you need to delete your account and lock yourself in a closet.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 12:17 pm to dcrews
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If you sincerely believe that having the worst record means we are LESS likely to win the lottery, then you need to delete your account and lock yourself in a closet.
Where the hell are you getting that from? I haven't seen anyone suggest anything like that.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 12:18 pm to tigers9898
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Dont mean to be a dick but its "won" not one
you are correct sir Posted on 4/10/12 at 12:25 pm to Jester
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Where the hell are you getting that from? I haven't seen anyone suggest anything like that.
2nd poster in this thread talking about it being the reason we shouldn't tank.
Besides it wasn't directed to anyone personally, just putting it out there in general.
Although there has been mention of this as a reason NOT to have the worst record, on this board and other boards out there as well.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 12:27 pm to dcrews
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2nd poster in this thread talking about it being the reason we shouldn't tank.
Besides it wasn't directed to anyone personally, just putting it out there in general.
Although there has been mention of this as a reason NOT to have the worst record, on this board and other boards out there as well.
You are totally misconstruing his point. The point he is making is that the odds really aren't that much better to justify intentionally losing.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 6:30 pm to quail man
quote:You are lucky you said this, b/c I was about to type that shite out. People don't understand odds.
:inb4TTTbuteveryyearisanewyeartrendsdontmeananything:
Posted on 4/10/12 at 6:39 pm to Jester
We will probably have 167 or 173 combos going into the lottery. Washington will probably have 199 combos which isn't that different.
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