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Pine Farming Questions
Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:07 pm
Wife and I are exploring farming pine on 40 or so acres. Can anyone give an estimated profit on this in 20-30 years when it comes time to harvest?
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:19 pm to cajunatc
Currently have pine on 350 acres, I would guess what ever the value of $300,000 to $400,000 today is in the year 2042.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:20 pm to Beerinthepocket
thanks for the feedback...so that is for my 40 or your 350?
also would you suggest holding the harvest till 30 years or would 20 do?
also would you suggest holding the harvest till 30 years or would 20 do?
Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:48 pm to cajunatc
That'd be your 40. What will most likely happen is you will thin it at 15, 20, and 25 years, then clean cut at 30.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 10:09 pm to Beerinthepocket
do you make anything from the pine needle's every year for mulch or the thinnings? or is it not worth the effort.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 10:24 pm to cajunatc
You will make money from the thinning. We don't do anything with the pine needles. It's not worth it to me at least.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 10:34 pm to cajunatc
it's awfully difficult to estimate the value of a commodity 20-30 years in the future.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 11:06 pm to Jim Rockford
Nah, it is simple to estimate, I estimated it above. Estimate correctly? Yeah, I'd say that's awfully difficult 
Posted on 2/28/12 at 4:04 am to Beerinthepocket
We are actually just beginning the process of starting a pine farm. A local forestry guy from the Tylertown area came out to our place and said it will run around $250-300 an acre to get it up and going. We are only planting about 35-40 acres.
Posted on 2/28/12 at 4:55 am to guttata
Do not know if this is possible with smaller acreages, but next door neighbor when growing up, had about 2800/3000 acres and would rotate 100 acre sections each year. Each year a 100 acre section would be clear cut and this would continue for 25/30 years and then start over on the first clear cut section.
Posted on 2/28/12 at 10:09 am to Beerinthepocket
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Message Posted by Beerinthepocket You will make money from the thinning. We don't do anything with the pine needles. It's not worth it to me at least.
My buddy has about 5000 acres of pine farms and they sell the needles. However I would imagine the smaller and smaller the property the less margin there would be on pine needles.
Posted on 2/28/12 at 11:31 am to guttata
Do you buy insurance against a pest or disease wiping out your forest? Remember what Dutch Elm did back in the day? Now, Ash trees are getting wiped out by an insect.
Posted on 2/28/12 at 5:58 pm to cajunatc
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o you make anything from the pine needle's every year for mulch or the thinnings? or is it not worth the effort.
Pine straw industry never really got going in Louisiana. In states like Florida and Georgia, landowners do well with it. I think our soils and climate produce so much undergrowth that it makes straw farming too labor intensive and expensive.
Posted on 2/29/12 at 12:13 pm to hawkster
quote:I never understood why people on the North Shore buy pine straw, but they do. Crazy, I tell you, just crazy.
I think our soils and climate produce so much undergrowth that it makes straw farming too labor intensive and expensive.
Posted on 2/29/12 at 9:17 pm to cajunatc
Posted on 3/2/12 at 3:28 pm to cajunatc
You may want to check with the dept of agriculture, they will reimburse land owners 50% for land prep, planting, and spraying.
Posted on 3/3/12 at 8:41 am to rushing11
thanks for all of the great insight and feedback
Posted on 3/3/12 at 8:53 pm to Beerinthepocket
On my farm there are 10 very clean acres of pines. They are in rows probably not spaced more than 7 or 8 feet apart. Im guessing they are in the 20 year old range but I really don't know. They were planted before I owned the place.
Is there any timber value in this or is the area too small to make it worthwhile to harvest? And is there a method to determine approximate age?
Is there any timber value in this or is the area too small to make it worthwhile to harvest? And is there a method to determine approximate age?
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:27 am to Forgiving Morgan
Posted on 3/4/12 at 12:35 pm to lnomm34
We are mainly doing the farm so we can write stuff off. The state of MS is helping by reimbursing us a % and we are basically doing it so we can write off our toys/tractor and mileage to go to and from the camp, I mean farm.
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