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Letter from Frederick Douglas to his former "master"



I am your fellow man, but not your slave

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In September of 1848, the incredible Frederick Douglass wrote the following open letter to Thomas Auld — a man who, until a decade previous, had been Douglass' slave master for many years — and published it in North Star, the newspaper he himself founded in 1847. In the letter, Douglass writes of his twenty years as a slave; his subsequent escape and new life; and then enquires about his siblings, presumably still "owned" by his old master. He even asks Auld to imagine his own daughter as a slave.


A must-read for anyone who, like me, has desensitized themselves to the pain and suffering endured by black slaves in the United States.

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How, let me ask, would you look upon me, were I some dark night in company with a band of hardened villains, to enter the precincts of your elegant dwelling and seize the person of your own lovely daughter Amanda, and carry her off from your family, friends and all the loved ones of her youth—make her my slave—compel her to work, and I take her wages—place her name on my ledger as property—disregard her personal rights—fetter the powers of her immortal soul by denying her the right and privilege of learning to read and write—feed her coarsely—clothe her scantily, and whip her on the naked back occasionally; more and still more horrible, leave her unprotected—a degraded victim to the brutal lust of fiendish overseers, who would pollute, blight, and blast her fair soul—rob her of all dignity—destroy her virtue, and annihilate all in her person the graces that adorn the character of virtuous womanhood?







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theunknownknight
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That's racist





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uway
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Is it not sad that things he talks about as terrible evils in that letter (children separated from their fathers, illiteracy) are now freely chosen by so many?





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Is it not sad that things he talks about as terrible evils in that letter (children separated from their fathers, illiteracy) are now freely chosen by so many?

There have been many threads on those topics so why do you feel it's necessary to hijack this one?






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There have been many threads on those topics so why do you feel it's necessary to hijack this one?


I started this thread. It's not a hijack. Its impossible for me to read his letter without at once feeling disgust for what happened then and sorrow about what's happening now.






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Is it not sad that things he talks about as terrible evils in that letter (children separated from their fathers, illiteracy) are now freely chosen by so many?


What I find sad is how far from that level of writing most people are.






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Is it not sad that things he talks about as terrible evils in that letter (children separated from their fathers, illiteracy) are now freely chosen by so many?


families are ripped apart for hundreds of years and you don't think it will have lingering effects? Your reality sucks






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Mo Jeaux
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I think economic incentives contribute much more to current family trends than the legacy of slavery. Lower class whites are going through the same broken family processes that blacks experienced in the 1960s.





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families are ripped apart for hundreds of years and you don't think it will have lingering effects?
150 years later?

No. The "ripped apart family" effect should have been overcome after 3 generations, at the most.

I read an article on war refugees for a psych class a while back.

From the "ripped apart families" POV, that should have been overcome.

There are other lingering effects, but that one is shite.






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The modern day use of black women as baby factoriies is at the least equal to the effects of slavery was in its day.





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Roaad
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The biggest hindrances to the black community are a symbiosis of poverty and entitlements.

The 2 have begun to feed each other, creating a cycle that won't be easily broken.

Sadly neither of the 2 parties are willing to do what is necessary.






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Roaad


Who are u to say how long it will take over 10 million people separated from family and stripped of all morals to turn things around? Arrogant statements like this is the reason the world hates Europeans/Americans. Pure ignorance



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olgoi khorkhoi
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It's pretty ironic that so many blacks in America live in vast ghettos and are illiterate or barely speak functional English and can't succeed because of slavery and racism, but a man who was born a slave can become a self-taught F'in wordsmith and start a successful newspaper.





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CITWTT
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So exactly how many generations will it take for the deficits of slavery to be rectified? What amount of damages need to be paid out? Are you aware of the fact that the slave trade started with the warring tribes in Africa? Are you aware that they still act as they did then acroos vast amounts of the continent??





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A touching documentary on George & Martha Washington's runaway slave, Oney Judge: LINK.





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CarrolltonTiger
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Who are u to say how long it will take over 10 million people separated from family and stripped of all morals to turn things around?


You make a very good point. Who is to say it can even be done? In spite of Trillions of dollars of investment in our at risk citizens and decades of effort toward assimilatiion, what has been accomplished but dismal failure?






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Francis Marion
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A great letter and a great man, so will whitey ever be forgiven for what a very small percentage of our ancestors did a couple of hundred years ago?

Why didn't Mr. Douglas write a letter to the African tribes whose entire mode of life consisted of warring and capturing their fellow man to sell on the slave coast, or maybe the Dutch Jews who controlled the entire slave trade from the northeast?






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How would Douglas or George W Carver react were they to witness what has occured in the black population since they lived?





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Francis Marion
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Who are u to say how long it will take over 10 million people separated from family and stripped of all morals to turn things around? Arrogant statements like this is the reason the world hates Europeans/Americans. Pure ignorance


How do you mean to turn things around? Like in Africa?






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LINK


And yet another useless excercise in "outrage", because no one will address the real problem, which is the 70% out of wedlock birth rate.

Everytime they have one of these meetings I'm hopeful someone will speak about it-if they do it's never reported.

Until the issue of unsupervised young men and women, with no father in the home is dealt with, the carnage will continue.






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