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Why no new Star Trek tv series?
Posted on 2/23/12 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 2/23/12 at 4:45 pm
Why have they not created a new series since Enterprise. I have been watching DS9 on Netflix and it got me wondering. I remember being in high school and watching TNG Sunday nights.
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Posted on 2/23/12 at 4:48 pm to nino2469
Enterprise just did so poorly.
I'm sure we will eventually see a New Next Generation, but I hope they drop the temporal cold war stuff.
I'm sure we will eventually see a New Next Generation, but I hope they drop the temporal cold war stuff.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 4:50 pm to nino2469
Because J.J. Abrahms hit the reset button and it was awesome.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 4:54 pm to nino2469
It'll be this movie and probably the third before they even attempt it. the good news is CGI technology has advanced to where we can move the TNG timeline forward another 100 years (a la the ST online MMORG storyline) which is actually a fun read. it's detailed as hell, part of the storyline in the game is that The Doctor has become a leading advocate in hologram rights.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 4:56 pm to Napoleon
quote:Correct answer in the first reply.
Enterprise just did so poorly.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 5:09 pm to Roaad
that is true. They didn't let the market breathe after VOY, ENT wasn't wanted at the time.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 5:27 pm to Fletch F Fletch
sadly Enterprise could have easily been the best series.
Existed at a Time when the Earth was not yet unified.
Covered the creation of Starfleet, and later the Federation of Planets. (after the destruction of Florida)
Would have been cool to see the Earth-Romulan War that is mentioned (in TOS, Romulans and Humans went to war without ever seeing what the other looked like.)
The time travel stuff sucked.
But the overall premise was cool
I would like to see the Enterprise F in action though and not see another throw-back show.
Though they did do a good job of explaining why the Enterprise NX-01 was more advanced than the 1701. (after the Romulan War Federation ships went to retro technologies as not to be taken over by the Romulans, who were able to hack any advanced computers)
Existed at a Time when the Earth was not yet unified.
Covered the creation of Starfleet, and later the Federation of Planets. (after the destruction of Florida)
Would have been cool to see the Earth-Romulan War that is mentioned (in TOS, Romulans and Humans went to war without ever seeing what the other looked like.)
The time travel stuff sucked.
But the overall premise was cool
I would like to see the Enterprise F in action though and not see another throw-back show.
Though they did do a good job of explaining why the Enterprise NX-01 was more advanced than the 1701. (after the Romulan War Federation ships went to retro technologies as not to be taken over by the Romulans, who were able to hack any advanced computers)
Posted on 2/23/12 at 6:50 pm to Napoleon
They are working on one now. Enterprise did kind of suck though, and after having the shows on for so many years straight the stories got stale. You can only watch so many Starfleet officers struggle with moral dilemmas.
Bryan Singer proposed one, but it was a fricking awful premise. They were going to have it set far in the future, with the Federation trapped in a time of stagnation. Basically in his vision the Federation would have spent two centuries not doing shite and losing power fast. No one would have wanted to watch that. Also he was fresh off Superman Returns, so his stock wasn't soaring so high.
There is a new one in the works that has promise. It takes place shortly after the Voyager era. In this one, the Klingons are slowly getting pissed about the deal they struck with the Federation and are about to go nuts again. The Ferengi stumbled across a new resource that made them insanely wealthy and finally dangerous.
Fun note: the Ferengi were initially supposed to be real villains in the series, but soon after their introduction it was realized they were too comical to be threatening. For this reason the Borg were introduced.
They're trying to get a younger, faster paced show this time around. More of the style of the new Star Trek movie. They're going to stick with original canon and not use the alternate universe JJ Abrams made.
It hasn't been officially pitched yet, but it has a decent shot.
Bryan Singer proposed one, but it was a fricking awful premise. They were going to have it set far in the future, with the Federation trapped in a time of stagnation. Basically in his vision the Federation would have spent two centuries not doing shite and losing power fast. No one would have wanted to watch that. Also he was fresh off Superman Returns, so his stock wasn't soaring so high.
There is a new one in the works that has promise. It takes place shortly after the Voyager era. In this one, the Klingons are slowly getting pissed about the deal they struck with the Federation and are about to go nuts again. The Ferengi stumbled across a new resource that made them insanely wealthy and finally dangerous.
Fun note: the Ferengi were initially supposed to be real villains in the series, but soon after their introduction it was realized they were too comical to be threatening. For this reason the Borg were introduced.
They're trying to get a younger, faster paced show this time around. More of the style of the new Star Trek movie. They're going to stick with original canon and not use the alternate universe JJ Abrams made.
It hasn't been officially pitched yet, but it has a decent shot.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 7:06 pm to Thundercles
Well, fact of the matter is all TV is purely speculative at this point. If they ever revisit the TNG prime timeline, they should make an animated movie or 13 episode miniseries of the Destiny trilogy. Those books are a goddamn great story.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 8:40 pm to Fletch F Fletch
I enjoyed Enterprise, it was cool seeing the first voyages of humanity into the reaches of space. They had some lag but I thought the series picked up before it got canceled.
I haven't seen anything about a new series. Where is that info at?
I haven't seen anything about a new series. Where is that info at?
Posted on 2/23/12 at 8:45 pm to Thundercles
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They were going to have it set far in the future, with the Federation trapped in a time of stagnation. Basically in his vision the Federation would have spent two centuries not doing shite and losing power fast.
That actually sounds good to me. Like the Roman Empire struggling not ot fall. Make it dark but still hopeful.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 9:04 pm to Cold Pizza
Interesting you say this
I just don't think people would react to humans/The Federation being "weaker" in the presence of others. Unless the show were about some kind of upheaval and a return to power over the course of the series, but they didn't detail this in what I read.
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Burnett explains that they wanted to create an allegory both to the decline of the Roman Empire as well as to the 21st century "American Empire" which had started showing strains
I just don't think people would react to humans/The Federation being "weaker" in the presence of others. Unless the show were about some kind of upheaval and a return to power over the course of the series, but they didn't detail this in what I read.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 9:40 pm to Thundercles
quote:
Bryan Singer proposed one, but it was a fricking awful premise. They were going to have it set far in the future, with the Federation trapped in a time of stagnation. Basically in his vision the Federation would have spent two centuries not doing shite and losing power fast. No one would have wanted to watch that.
I think Rodenberry had a similar idea for a Star Trek sequel set in the Federation's far future. It morphed into Andromeda.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 9:47 pm to Master of Sinanju
I enjoyed Enterprise. It's actually my favorite series after DS9. Just something about the initial voyages into the final frontier. Kind of had a Columbus thing going on.
The temporal storyline was a little much, but the series had a lot of good stories, as they could do a lot with species interacting with Humans for the first time and not understanding what we are like, then learning about us, as well as us learning about them.
Wish that series got eight years instead of Voyager.
The temporal storyline was a little much, but the series had a lot of good stories, as they could do a lot with species interacting with Humans for the first time and not understanding what we are like, then learning about us, as well as us learning about them.
Wish that series got eight years instead of Voyager.
Posted on 2/23/12 at 10:22 pm to magildachunks
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I enjoyed Enterprise.
I had high hopes, but it jumped the shark with the time travel thing. I've said this a thousand; most plots that involve time travel are a cheap way to tell a story.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 12:12 am to magildachunks
I felt like Enterprise tried a little too hard. That may not make sense.
It seemed like the producers knew it was living in a large shadow cast by the shows that came before it. And they tried to way too hard to tie everything into the future series. Also I didn't really like most of the characters.
It seemed like the producers knew it was living in a large shadow cast by the shows that came before it. And they tried to way too hard to tie everything into the future series. Also I didn't really like most of the characters.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:18 am to magildachunks
quote:I could never bring myself to watch Voyager.
Wish that series got eight years instead of Voyager.
All my trekkie friends told me how bad it sucked.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:21 am to Thundercles
T'Pol
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:12 am to nino2469
I always thought they could have based a series off of Riker becoming the captain of the Titan in the last TNG movie.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:41 am to nino2469
The main story arc is irrelevant. Star Trek just needs:
- A strong leader
- An alien or robot officer that the crew trusts completely but Star Fleet doesn't
- A hot chick officer
- A weekly threat, be it military foe, contentious first contact, space anomaly, or really weird and big alien mistaken for a space anomaly.
- Cool technology concept that the mainstream has never really seen in action before (transporter, replicator, holodeck)
This is not at all a dig at Star Trek, it's a good formula, especially when well executed.
- A strong leader
- An alien or robot officer that the crew trusts completely but Star Fleet doesn't
- A hot chick officer
- A weekly threat, be it military foe, contentious first contact, space anomaly, or really weird and big alien mistaken for a space anomaly.
- Cool technology concept that the mainstream has never really seen in action before (transporter, replicator, holodeck)
This is not at all a dig at Star Trek, it's a good formula, especially when well executed.
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