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Helpful guide for those wondering about LSU's NCAA Tournament chances
Posted on 2/21/12 at 8:28 am
Posted on 2/21/12 at 8:28 am
Sorry if already posted, but cbssports.com has a great feature where you can compare the tourney resume on any two college basketball teams. It helps show the reason why a team like Texas or NC State is "on the bubble", while LSU isn't. Simply put, LSU's non-conf RPI is not very good (104).
Nevertheless, the website is updated daily and gives the clearest picture IMO of a team's chances to make the tourney. Personally, I like to compare the "last four in/out" teams with LSU so I can get a look at where we might stand.
NCAA Tourney team comparisons
Nevertheless, the website is updated daily and gives the clearest picture IMO of a team's chances to make the tourney. Personally, I like to compare the "last four in/out" teams with LSU so I can get a look at where we might stand.
NCAA Tourney team comparisons
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Posted on 2/21/12 at 8:35 am to Alt26
NC State barely has a better resume than LSU, using that website.
LSU's strength of schedule is ranked #49, and its RPI is #63.
NC State's strength of schedule is #42, and its RPI is #58.
LSU has 2 wins vs. the top 50, and 2 bad losses.
NC State has 1 win vs. the top 50, and 2 bad losses.
Both teams are middle of the pack in their conference.
LSU's strength of schedule is ranked #49, and its RPI is #63.
NC State's strength of schedule is #42, and its RPI is #58.
LSU has 2 wins vs. the top 50, and 2 bad losses.
NC State has 1 win vs. the top 50, and 2 bad losses.
Both teams are middle of the pack in their conference.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 8:44 am to LSUtoOmaha
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2 bad losses.
If we just win those games ...
Posted on 2/21/12 at 8:49 am to LSUtoOmaha
I agree. Which means as of today LSU "could" be moving closer to one of the "play-in game" spots. The difference between NC State and LSU is their non-conf SOS and RPI:
LSU: SOS: 205 RPI: 104
NC St: SOS: 30 RPI: 47
LSU's relatively weak non-conf schedule and those two bad loses to S.Ala. and CC are looming very large right now.
LSU: SOS: 205 RPI: 104
NC St: SOS: 30 RPI: 47
LSU's relatively weak non-conf schedule and those two bad loses to S.Ala. and CC are looming very large right now.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 8:53 am to Alt26
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non-conf SOS and RPI:
LSU: SOS: 205 RPI: 104
NC St: SOS: 30 RPI: 47
LSU's relatively weak non-conf schedule and those two bad loses to S.Ala. and CC are looming very large right now.
Exactly what will keep them out of the dance. Especially that non-conference SOS, the committee likes to see teams challenge itself in the non-conference.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 9:08 am to LSUtoOmaha
quote:
NC State barely has a better resume than LSU, using that website.
LSU's strength of schedule is ranked #49, and its RPI is #63.
NC State's strength of schedule is #42, and its RPI is #58.
LSU has 2 wins vs. the top 50, and 2 bad losses.
NC State has 1 win vs. the top 50, and 2 bad losses.
Both teams are middle of the pack in their conference.
I have my money on UNC -5.5 tonight. Make is another loss for NCSTate
Posted on 2/21/12 at 11:18 am to Alt26
Hmm...who would have known that the "EVERY GAME COUNTS" was for basketball this year?
Oh, the irony.
Oh, the irony.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 12:09 pm to bigpapamac
The committee also supposedly puts special weight on how you finish over how you start. That could especially help a team like LSU if the committee recognizes that we have relied heavily on freshmen and a transfer, and are definitely not the same team we were in November.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 12:23 pm to Gravitiger
The better comparison is LSU and Arizona. Most people, including Lunardi have the Wildcats in and don't have LSU even on the bubble.
This post was edited on 2/21/12 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 2/21/12 at 2:12 pm to ellessuuuu
Another interesting comparison is LSU and Miss. St.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 2:42 pm to ellessuuuu
After not seeing LSU mentioned at all, I have started seeing and hearing analysts throwing LSU into the mix today. Most say LSU is on the bad side of the bubble and has work to do, but that is better than not being mentioned at all just a few days ago.
Dan Wolken of The Daily said LSU was among 30 teams fighting for 19 bids.
Dan Wolken of The Daily said LSU was among 30 teams fighting for 19 bids.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 2:45 pm to Bubba Hotep
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Most say LSU is on the bad side of the bubble and has work to do, but that is better than not being mentioned at all just a few days ago.
I thought this was pretty much a given at the moment, but hey 4 wins could easily change that (with 5 or 6 almost certainly doing so).
Posted on 2/21/12 at 2:48 pm to Tigerfan7218
If we win out, we WILL be on the good side of the bubble entering the SEC Tournament.
Things would get VERY interesting at that point.
Things would get VERY interesting at that point.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 2:48 pm to Tigerfan7218
yeah, LSU is definitely not on the bubble yet. But, could play their way into position. Winning out puts LSU legitimately on the bubble heading into the SECT, imo.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 3:24 pm to Bubba Hotep
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fighting for 19 bids.
This number will shrink when teams start winning conference tournaments that aren't suppose to like if Murray St. doesn't win
Posted on 2/21/12 at 3:38 pm to T1gerWonder
This year's bubble is the softest it's been in a long time. If a team get hot down the stretch and wins out, they'll be in the tournament. If LSU wins out and gets a victory over a Florida, or God forbid somehow they beat Kentucky, they'll be a lock for a 10-12 seed.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 4:52 pm to LSUtoOmaha
quote:
NC State barely has a better resume than LSU, using that website.
LSU's strength of schedule is ranked #49, and its RPI is #63.
NC State's strength of schedule is #42, and its RPI is #58.
LSU has 2 wins vs. the top 50, and 2 bad losses.
NC State has 1 win vs. the top 50, and 2 bad losses.
Both teams are middle of the pack in their conference.
neither one is in, if the seeding were done today.
LSU has a chance to finish on a roll. If they do, they will get in.
if they dont, they can win a couple in the NIT before they have to play a road game.
Posted on 2/21/12 at 10:40 pm to Alt26
I heard ESPN refer to Northwestern as a bubble team today. You may recall they defeated LSU on a neutral court by six points. The Tigers compare favorably to them aside from the NCRPI and NCSOS. No doubt, the Tigers are currently rueing those two bad losses in November.
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