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joshnorris14
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Carry on with your blinders on if you think there is no correlation in not having another attack on U.S. soil after this was said and we went to war in their backyard.


Wasting trillions of dollars > not having another attack.






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jcole4lsu
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Carry on with your blinders on if you think there is no correlation in not having another attack on U.S. soil after this was said and we went to war in their backyard.



you got worf face-palmed and you still want to quote the worst president since carter?

jesus tap dancing christ son






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jcole4lsu
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Wasting trillions of dollars and giving up the liberties this country was founded on > not having another attack.


fify






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4LSU2
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the worst president since carter?


I thought we were talking about GWB, not BHO.






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Poodlebrain
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There are problems with finding new buyers that have to be overcome. The first is payment, the second is delivery and the third is refinery capacity or storage. Without being part of SWIFT will there be confidence in interbank electronic transfers of funds, and will the transfers be processed as rapidly? Who is going to deliver the oil to its new purchaser(s)? It's not like there are are too many countries with spare tankers laying about to transport the oil. And 2.2 million barrels per day of refinery capacity don't just pop up overnight. Neither does storage capacity for that amount of oil if it can't be absorbed into the economy immediately.

So Iran is going to take a hit economically. They will be Japan from 1941 in reverse - plenty of oil with limited ability to export. Japan decided war was necessary to secure flow of oil. It isn't crazy to think Iran might too.






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CarrolltonTiger
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Japan decided war was necessary to secure flow of oil. It isn't crazy to think Iran might too.


Yeah, it sort of crazy. They are embargoing Europe so they will go to war to make Europe buy their oil?


A reverse Japan 1941 is silly, but I suppose you are tired of hitler analogies so you and your ilk are going to be stretching for a little diversity.






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Bunk Moreland
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This is the reason for all the saber rattling. Yes, I know this article is six years old.
LINK

As this guy put it with respect to Iraq:
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Candidly stated, ‘Operation Iraqi Freedom’ was a war designed to install a pro-U.S. government in Iraq, establish multiple U.S military bases before the onset of global Peak Oil, and to reconvert Iraq back to petrodollars while hoping to thwart further OPEC momentum towards the euro as an alternative oil transaction currency (i.e. “petroeuro”).[

LINK






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TX Tiger
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to reconvert Iraq back to petrodollars
See Gaddafi; See Chavez, etc.
Funny how these folks don't become evil dictators until after they decide to quit dealing oil in dollars.

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A nation-state taxes its own citizens, while an empire taxes other nation-states. The history of empires, from Greek and Roman, to Ottoman and British, teaches that the economic foundation of every single empire is the taxation of other nations.

For the first time in history, in the twentieth century, America was able to tax the world indirectly, through inflation. It did not enforce the direct payment of taxes like all of its predecessor empires did, but distributed instead its own fiat currency, the U.S. Dollar, to other nations in exchange for goods with the intended consequence of inflating and devaluing those dollars and paying back later each dollar with less economic goods—the difference capturing the U.S. imperial tax.
Ironic that our very foundation of freedom and liberty was fought in opposition of such acts. Or at least that's what we were taught in history class.

P.S. Good find Bunk. But I doubt you'll get much response, because;
A.) TV hasn't told the masses what to think about this.
B.) The uneducated can't think past left vs. right.






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Fat Bastard
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Yeah because that isnt exactly the type of thing Bin Laden was running his yap about or anything. We would control the oil but create how many more pissed off muslim terrorists?


right, because america created jihad right? and there are no muslim terrorists waging attacks against anybody but the USA, right?








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TX Tiger
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because america created jihad right?
Wouldn't it be cool if you were powerful enough to create a terrorist group that could do your dirty work for you and then you could blame it on your enemy?
I sure am glad that doesn't happen.






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TX Tiger
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So we should roll over and let them control the world?
Piss on muslim extremists that want to destroy this country and her interests.
So they should roll over and let us control the world.






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Taxing Authority
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Iran has stopped selling crude
The Obama/Carter parallels continue to stack up!






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Taxing Authority
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Oil is fungible,
Ummm. No. Different oils have different refining properties. Whether a particular refinery can quickly change their process depends on the refinery. But in general it's not a simple change. This is why we saw a spike in Brent crude (but not WTI) during the Libyan uprising, because Libya's oil is mostly interchangeable with Brent Blend.

There are many different oil prices. Commonly you only hear WTI quoted. It's considered the benchmark. But many grades exist, all different. Brent Crude, West Texas Intermediate, Arab Light/Medium/Heavy, etc. LINK






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LSURussian
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See Gaddafi; See Chavez, etc.
Funny how these folks don't become evil dictators until after they decide to quit dealing oil in dollars.

Are you completely out of touch with reality now?

Ghaddafi never stopped selling oil for dollars although he threatened to stop accepting dollars and only accept the euro or gold. His threat was never implemented.

And Iran still accepts dollars. Iran has been threatening to accept other currencies but it has not implemented that plan yet. The linked article below says Iran will start accepting other currencies next month.

Ahmadinejad has been considered an "evil dictator" for years all the while still selling his country's oil for dollars.

LINK

You must live in with your head in the sandto get such easily researched facts so wrong.






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Poodlebrain
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So you think it is sort of crazy to suggest that countries go to war to protect what they perceive to be their economic interests. I guess Saddam Hussein just wanted to spread the faith when he invaded Iran and Kuwait. Those wars had nothing to do with capturing economic resources.

No, Iran can't force anyone to buy their oil, and I commented on how difficult it will be for them to find replacement buyers. Iran could conceivably take a lower price for its oil to attract new buyers since it won't be able to participate in the same market as others. But that is not a sure thing. I suggested Iran might resort to war, which is not an unheard of event.

Why is it silly to think that a nation that relies on exchanging its oil resources for products from other countries would react with hostility to having the value of its oil resources reduced drastically? Iran may take the approach that if its citizens are going to suffer, then it will make the citizens of other countries suffer as well.

Why did you bring Hitler into this discussion? It must be some sort of obsession you have.






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TX Tiger
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Are you completely out of touch with reality now?
I am almost completely out of touch with propoganda, which is why I keep coming back to this board.
So, please continue to fill me in.








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TX Tiger
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So you think it is sort of crazy to suggest that countries go to war to protect what they perceive to be their economic interests.
Now just hold on a minute. Are you suggesting that we're in the Middle East for anything other than fighting terrorism?







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TX Tiger
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Ghaddafi never stopped selling oil for dollars although he threatened to stop accepting dollars and only accept the euro or gold. His threat was never implemented.
How convenient for us that he (and Saddam) just happened to be an evil dictator and had to be taken out as such before this could be implemented.


ETA: And of course, by "us" I don't mean you or me or the country that I dearly love. I mean the corporate/banking Fascist elite that have taken control of our government.



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LSURussian
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Do you even follow current events??? It appears you don't. You don't want facts to get in the way of your paranoia-based opinions.....

Eta: and I see you completely ignored my correcting you about Iran. But that fits your M.O. when you've been embarrassed on here.



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TX Tiger
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Do you even follow current events???
Of course I do. And when I'm curious about the propoganda spin, I can always count on you or others on this board to provide it for me.
Don't think you aren't appreciated.

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Eta: and I see you completely ignored my correcting you about Iran.
I didn't include Iran in my statement. But thanks for correcting me on something I didn't say.
Do you know why I didn't include Iran?
Because Ahkmadontgiveafrick is a puppet, just like Obama. Both are dancing for the entertainment (and profit) of the elite.
They aren't going to get rid of him like they did Saddam and Ghaddafi as long as he plays his part in the game.






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