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Miles screwed up by getting inside Lee's head, and isnt remorseful
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:20 pm
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"I just feel like I could have been given the chance, you know," Lee said, "had an opportunity to come in and get something going, you know, it is what it is."
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Post-game, much speculation has surrounded head coach Les Miles's decision to keep Jefferson in for the entirety of the game and Lee still hasn't been given any reason for that decision. "No, as soon as that game was over, I headed out to Arizona
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"Honestly, I don't know if anyone ever came up to me and was just like 'you suck' or 'you're terrible' but there were times when I would hear someone when I was standing there and they didn't know I was there, didn't know I was around and I could hear them talking and that kind of, that's not a very fun feeling." Lee was also ripped apart on message boards, and though he completely refrains from reading them, he still had to sometimes hear what people had to say. "My grandad, he's bad at that, he's a message board reader and he'd always call me and text me 'hey, how about this?' and I'm like 'I can't be worrying about that, I have enough stuff on my plate as it is!'"
So what does Miles do?
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Lee still faced the competitive factor of football and could never get quite too comfortable in his starting role, especially after Jefferson was reinstated to the team. "That was tough again. After four games of being the starter and having Jordan come back, it was kind of one of those deals where you know, him coming in for a series or two it was kind of…I don't want to say frustrating, but you felt like you were getting the job done and bringing another guy in…
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so I just kind of knew how it was going to be. I couldn't worry about all that other stuff, it would just bring me down, bring the team down, so all I could do was do my job when I was in the game. That's really all I could do."
How did he manage to internalize everything? "I don't know. I mean, it's just something you just realize is what's going to happen, how it's going to be, and you just have to accept it and do your role, do your part. But it was tough, don't get me wrong, it was very tough." Lee knew that in order to continue to play, he'd have to play extremely well. Each week was a competition
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"I went home to the hotel afterwards, was able to talk with my dad. I've got a very supportive family so that was great. We were a little frustrated because we didn't understand, we didn't really know what was going on, but you know, I didn't really have time to sit and sulk about it. Had about thirty, forty minutes of that, me and my dad talked, and then I was off to Arizona. I have another chapter to write.
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:25 pm to RobbBobb
It's a shame how that kid got treated here.
Have to say, that's one of the darker parts of this entire season.
Have to say, that's one of the darker parts of this entire season.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:29 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Have to say, that's one of the darker parts of this entire season.
I think thats why so many cant understand why most people arent joyful about a 13-1, SEC championship season
Knowing what we know, it just seems so tainted in the end. Because Miles brought that arse-kicking that he deserved, onto the entire Tiger nation
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:31 pm to RobbBobb
I know I'm gonna be rooting like hell for him to at least get a shot somewhere even to backup.
Reading all of that I guess makes it so real because he finally spoke his mind. Before this he would just give the political answer.
Hopefully Miles learned something from this...because he as sure hell brought this final season result on himself.
Reading all of that I guess makes it so real because he finally spoke his mind. Before this he would just give the political answer.
Hopefully Miles learned something from this...because he as sure hell brought this final season result on himself.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:31 pm to RobbBobb
Damn
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:31 pm to RobbBobb
I thought Miles was right to bench Jarrett in 2008, and I thought that he was right to start Jordan throughout 2009.
However, the last 2 years clearly showed that Jarrett Lee deserved to be starting QB. Don't know what else to say about it, but Miles has lost quite a bit of luster in my eyes over the past two seasons.
However, the last 2 years clearly showed that Jarrett Lee deserved to be starting QB. Don't know what else to say about it, but Miles has lost quite a bit of luster in my eyes over the past two seasons.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:32 pm to RobbBobb
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Miles screwed up by getting inside Lee's head, and isnt remorseful
If Lee can't take the pressure of another QB taking snaps around him, how was he going to take the pressure of the Bama defense? Losing some snaps is nothing. Losing a game, on the road, against an epic defense is a whole different ball game. Lee showed he couldn't handle it. To even imply that Lee getting all the snaps before Bama would suddenly mean Lee had the confidence and ability to make contested throws against Bama is homerism at its finest.
My point? Miles didn't get in Lee's head. Lee's head was never ready for prime time football to begin with. (Neither was JJ's.) A shame, both situations may have been different with 2+ years with an actual QB coach.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:33 pm to RobbBobb
Concussion
Refusal to play
Depression
The end.
Refusal to play
Depression
The end.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:37 pm to Tigercat
He was frustrated he was being taken out despite playing well. Any starting QB would feel exactly the same.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:37 pm to Tigercat
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My point? Miles didn't get in Lee's head. Lee's head was never ready for prime time football to begin with.
Lee was doing what was asked of him, then for no reason, the other guy started getting series. He never saw that happen when he was the back-up. He knew he had to be perfect. NO player is perfect. Miles forced him to be. Lee knew the deal.
There is no doubting that now.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:39 pm to DBG
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He was frustrated he was being taken out despite playing well. Any starting QB would feel exactly the same.
Yes, indeed. Any competitor that gets passed up for playing time will indeed be disappointed. But that is sports.
Good luck to Lee. I hope all our tigers go on for greatness.
But this jarret lee martyr stuff needs to stop.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:40 pm to TigerRagAndrew
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Miles has lost quite a bit of luster in my eyes over the past two seasons.
And it seems that Lee has still not talked to Miles. Not even to congratulate him on the Arizona All-star game.
Miles is dropping rapidly on my respect scale
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:40 pm to RobbBobb
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My grandad, he's bad at that, he's a message board reader and he'd always call me and text me 'hey, how about this?
hey lee's grandfather come say hi!
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:41 pm to RobbBobb
Im over it and I have moved on but when I read something like this and I knew it was coming but that is probably as much as Lee will say because he is a class act. I really get ticked off at the decision not to play him in that MNC. It just makes absolutely zero sense. 
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:41 pm to RobbBobb
wow....just wow. sad indeed.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:43 pm to BeeFense5
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But this jarret lee martyr stuff needs to stop.
You want the truth swept under the rug because it continues to make Miles' decision on the QB situation more asinine by the day.
It's not about making anybody a martyr, but wanting answers for the inexplicable.
At the end of the day, careers dissected, Lee proved to be the better QB and he sat in the two biggest games of the year/careers for no reason.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:44 pm to Fat Bastard
To the admin that anchored this and PMd me:
No I dont think its time to move on, because this article just came out today
No I dont think its time to move on, because this article just came out today
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:44 pm to Tigercat
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My point? Miles didn't get in Lee's head. Lee's head was never ready for prime time football to begin with.
Understandably, your opinion is shared by few. Lee won games with last minute drives as a freshman, playing on a team with a vastly underachieving defense and coaches who had no clue how to bring young quarterbacks along. Some of those 16 int's were attributable to his mistakes reading coverage but many were on the horrid defensive play which forced the offensive coaches to gamble. He sprained his ankle against OM that year and Les used that as an excuse to play Jefferson. The result was the worst offensive showing in decades in 2009 and not much better in 2010 except when Lee was allowed to bail the team out. The passing numbers once again took a dive in 2011 as soon as Jefferson replaced Lee. And by the way, in the Alabama game, the first int. was a direct result of a poor snap and the second occurred when Lee was reinserted after a horrific late hit no call which yes, did physically shake him up. Lee was, is and always will be a better quarterback than the guy Les continually tossed him aside for.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:47 pm to Tigercat
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If Lee can't take the pressure of another QB taking snaps around him
I don't think that's the point. When you come in and lead your team to the two last second come back wins and seal the deal to beat Bama in 2010. Then to start 2011 we finally have a semblance of an offense, a really good one at that. Lee was playing about as perfect as you could ask him to.
Then JJ gets reinstated and Les slowly lets him get some snaps which I was ok with to keep him fresh for when we needed him. JJ still showed signs of total ineptitude, but the run game and defense won games for us. However, to just yank Lee completely and practically ignore him the rest of the season was pretty criminal.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:48 pm to DP40
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It's not about making anybody a martyr, but wanting answers for the inexplicable.
Miles said that if he could he would definitely do things different. My question is what else do you want him to say? It's like yall won't stop until there is blood.
Lee should have played we all know that. But really, at this point, obsessing over it, isn't going to do anything.
Lee is just like any other athlete in any other sport that doesn't play "enough". It happens. Many of y'all have made it personal and won't stop chasing with pitchforks.
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