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Brees topic coming up on Around the Horn
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:15 pm
Curious to hear what they say about his MVP chances.
EDIT: Paige: 1)rodgers - said he may be having the greates season ever. 2) Brady 3)Brees
Cowlishaw said he's putting up great numbers against a tougher sched so he deservves to be in the discussion.
Thats about what everyone said. Its Rodgers to lose.
I dont get this if Brees sets the NFL record for yards AND re-sets the record for completion percentage AGAIN this year. He needs to beat Rodgers in TDs too... then it would be very tough to vote Rodgers when Brees has better stats in those 3. I expect Brees will have a shot as Rodgers may sit some.
EDIT: Paige: 1)rodgers - said he may be having the greates season ever. 2) Brady 3)Brees
Cowlishaw said he's putting up great numbers against a tougher sched so he deservves to be in the discussion.
Thats about what everyone said. Its Rodgers to lose.
I dont get this if Brees sets the NFL record for yards AND re-sets the record for completion percentage AGAIN this year. He needs to beat Rodgers in TDs too... then it would be very tough to vote Rodgers when Brees has better stats in those 3. I expect Brees will have a shot as Rodgers may sit some.
This post was edited on 12/19/11 at 4:25 pm
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Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:26 pm to BobBoucher
they arent gonna give league MVP to a Saint period, he could break 6 records this year and they would not give it to him , he just needs to be the superbowl MVP
This post was edited on 12/19/11 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:29 pm to BobBoucher
i love that td's became the barometer of ultimate achievement. Brees plays for a small market team. As good as we are, we are still a small market. Neither is having the season drew is having. it hurts brees that the saints actually have a running attack that isn't a one yard plunge from john kuhn.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:34 pm to Geauxld Finger
I hope Payton puts the pedal down in the red zone and Brees gets 5 passing TDs each of the next two games. 
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:36 pm to BobBoucher
I think the biggest drag on Brees in terms of stats this year is his QB rating compared to Rodgers which overshadows the other record breaking stats.
Brees' rating is almost 11 points lower - ~109 vs ~120. That gap is too much to make up over two games.
Brees' rating is almost 11 points lower - ~109 vs ~120. That gap is too much to make up over two games.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:39 pm to iPadThai
PTI just said they both give it to rodgers as well. He's better in TDs and INTs.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:41 pm to iPadThai
The problem this year is every one has jumped on the Rodgers bandwagon.
Drew is superior to Rodgers in this respect ,
Take Brees out of New Orleans we are the Indianapolis Colts.
Take Rodgers out of Green Bay, I beleive they still go 8-8.
That's just my opinion and yes I'm looking through black and gold glasses.
Drew is superior to Rodgers in this respect ,
Take Brees out of New Orleans we are the Indianapolis Colts.
Take Rodgers out of Green Bay, I beleive they still go 8-8.
That's just my opinion and yes I'm looking through black and gold glasses.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:42 pm to iPadThai
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Brees' rating is almost 11 points lower - ~109 vs ~120. That gap is too much to make up over two games.
Agreed, but Manning beat Brees out for MVP in 09 with a 99 QBR vs Brees's 109. I'd say if Brees can get within 6 or so points of Rodgers while breaking the completion % and passing yard records, he deserves significant consideration. Especially if manages to pull even with (or surpass) Rodgers in TDs.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:42 pm to BobBoucher
Didn't Brees have better stats than Manning when they fricked Brees in 2009?
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:43 pm to WHATDOINO
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Take Brees out of New Orleans we are the Indianapolis Colts.
I strongly disagree
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:44 pm to WHATDOINO
Na we would win around 6 games without Brees.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:45 pm to WHATDOINO
quote:I actually agree with this.
Take Brees out of New Orleans we are the Indianapolis Colts.
Take Rodgers out of Green Bay, I beleive they still go 8-8.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:47 pm to lighter345
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Message Posted by lighter345 Na we would win around 6 games without Brees.
I'm thinking more like three. Lol
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:49 pm to Jamohn
Brees is the best LEADER... so I think he should get the MVP.
Stats can get skewed depending on who you play or who's playing with you, but leadership is unmistakable...
Stats can get skewed depending on who you play or who's playing with you, but leadership is unmistakable...
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:53 pm to WHATDOINO
We have a good o line some explosive players and a real coach. Yea we win at least 6. not taking away from the fact that brees makes us who we are. I just think this team finds a way for around 6w games at least.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 4:56 pm to lighter345
quote:When the Colts had Manning, their line was considered to be among the best in the league. They were thought to have explosive players galore at the skill positions, including a HOFer in Reggie Wayne and a stud TE in Dallas Clark. Plus excellent complimentary players like Garcon and Collie. Funny how much a HOF QB's absence can change things. I don't think our line would look as good without a machine like Brees making pre-snap reads and striking with a lighting-quick release and surgical precision to the skill players allowing them to make explosive plays.
We have a good o line some explosive players
This post was edited on 12/19/11 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 12/19/11 at 5:25 pm to BobBoucher
It isn't going to happen...unfortunately its not going to even be close...they decided on Rodgers week 8
Posted on 12/19/11 at 6:16 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Brees plays for a small market team.
Peyton Manning plays for a small market team in indianopolis and he has won several MVP's.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 6:16 pm to Jamohn
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When the Colts had Manning, their line was considered to be among the best in the league. They were thought to have explosive players galore at the skill positions, including a HOFer in Reggie Wayne and a stud TE in Dallas Clark. Plus excellent complimentary players like Garcon and Collie. Funny how much a HOF QB's absence can change things. I don't think our line would look as good without a machine like Brees making pre-snap reads and striking with a lighting-quick release and surgical precision to the skill players allowing them to make explosive plays.
This is an exact example. Great post
Posted on 12/19/11 at 6:20 pm to BobBoucher
Cowherd just put drew in the same class as Tony romo and eli manning. Wtf are these people smoking.
This post was edited on 12/19/11 at 6:21 pm
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