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The "ugly truth" if you're a GUMP.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 11:54 am
Posted on 12/12/11 at 11:54 am
Three years ago I read these statements by many in Gumpland. "Les Miles is a Idiot", "where do I send the money to help keep Les Miles at LSU", "anyone could recruit at LSU, Les Miles isn't the reason for all the recruits at LSU". Now, I know these aren't exact quotes, but if you were on TD back then, you know these are as close to acurrate as possible.
Well, if you are a GUMP, what's the "ugly truth" now? Is Les Miles an idiot? Are you still willing to send your hard earned money to help pay Les Miles salary? Can any coach get the talent to LSU that the "Idiot", I mean Les Miles has recruited here?
Oh Please, give me the "ugly truth"!
Well, if you are a GUMP, what's the "ugly truth" now? Is Les Miles an idiot? Are you still willing to send your hard earned money to help pay Les Miles salary? Can any coach get the talent to LSU that the "Idiot", I mean Les Miles has recruited here?
Oh Please, give me the "ugly truth"!
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 11:57 am to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
i remember
They also said hiring $abun would make the 2000's look like the 70's again.
Perhaps it would have if they would just pay some more millions to $abun and $exton. Surely 9-6 would not have happened.
They also said hiring $abun would make the 2000's look like the 70's again.
Perhaps it would have if they would just pay some more millions to $abun and $exton. Surely 9-6 would not have happened.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 11:58 am
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:00 pm to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Yeah I remember all that bullshite. I'm trying to figure out who they are going to replace saban with. I seriously can't see him there more than maybe 2-3 more years.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:00 pm to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Les Miles is now just following The Great and Powerful Saban's masterful blueprint for a successful program. A blueprint Miles has shared with his former coaches at Oklahoma State. You have Saban to credit for the success of Alabama, LSU, and Oklahoma State.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:00 pm to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Some are even saying that if saban leaves, they will come after miles.
I shite you not.
How times have changed
I shite you not.
How times have changed
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:01 pm to MoreOrLes
What's funny about this thread is that I'm dead serious. I want to know the ugly truth about how they really feel about Les Miles. Oh, I know I won't hear it because the truth hurts.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:03 pm to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
"Miles only wins because of Saban's players"
-every gump in America circa 2007
-every gump in America circa 2007
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:03 pm to dreaux
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Some are even saying that if saban leaves, they will come after miles. I shite you not. How times have changed
Heard that delusional shite too. No way he would entertain the thought. He passed up on his alma matter twice, what makes them think he'd go to bama.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:05 pm to RBWilliams8
quote:The irony is LSU fans have been making that prediction for a while now.
I seriously can't see him there more than maybe 2-3 more years.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:06 pm to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
It wassnt just gumps. It was barners, and every other SEC fan.
We as a fanbase were partly to blame for that. i remember two amybe 3 years ago arguing with LSu fans about Les Miles as a coach, it was always 5 to 1.
Lots of LSU fans still had a hard-on for Nick Saban, and credited the 2007 NC to Nick Saban.
Funny how winning and success changes everyone's perception. I'm just glad les was able to keep himself, and the team focused during this rebuilding time, and do the things we are doing now in spite of our fans
We as a fanbase were partly to blame for that. i remember two amybe 3 years ago arguing with LSu fans about Les Miles as a coach, it was always 5 to 1.
Lots of LSU fans still had a hard-on for Nick Saban, and credited the 2007 NC to Nick Saban.
Funny how winning and success changes everyone's perception. I'm just glad les was able to keep himself, and the team focused during this rebuilding time, and do the things we are doing now in spite of our fans
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:09 pm to EthanL
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The irony is LSU fans have been making that prediction for a while now
part of the ugly truth
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:10 pm to EthanL
They were making so much fun of Les up here in Nashville that they talked about him every day and would watch his press conferences to find anything to make fun of him.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:10 pm to EthanL
quote:
We as a fanbase were partly to blame for that. i remember two amybe 3 years ago arguing with LSu fans about Les Miles as a coach, it was always 5 to 1.
I remember towards the end of '09 some guy looked over and said "do you ever wish we would lose sometimes so we can go ahead and get rid of miles?". Uh, no.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:13 pm to RBWilliams8
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"do you ever wish we would lose sometimes so we can go ahead and get rid of miles?". Uh, no.
I know of some LSU fans that said this too. Pathetic.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:17 pm to Chimlim
quote:
I know of some LSU fans that said this too. Pathetic.
You don't have to go far back to find these folks; right here on TD.com last year we were 8-0 and pathetic "fans" were calling for his head.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:19 pm to RBWilliams8
I was going to put this on the SEC rant, but I know how many Gumps will be on here today.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:22 pm to RBWilliams8
quote:I won't lie, after Ole Miss in 09 and UT in 10 I made some very unkind statments toward Les.
We as a fanbase were partly to blame for that. i remember two amybe 3 years ago arguing with LSu fans about Les Miles as a coach, it was always 5 to 1.
Having said that, there is an old dude who sits about our seats from me and he bitches at every game. I'm not and was never like that.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:23 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
They also said hiring $abun would make the 2000's look like the 70's again.
Well, in fairness, Nick hasn't been there long enough to reach the 70's era yet. If you look at at Bear's first 5 years, it isn't crazy to think Saban might hit similar numbers. Once, Bear started the winning tradition, he coached 14 more years. So, Saban still has 4 more years to start a tradition, then you can compare his next 14 years (as if he will stay anywhere that long) to Bear's body of work. But, at this point in their careers:
Bear '58-'62:
led Bama to 5-4-1 season first year, after a losing record the previous year
won a national title in year 4
between '58-'62 Bama went 41-8-4, 77.4%
1 national championship
1 SEC championship
1 undefeated seasons
Saban '07-'11:
led Bama to a 7-6 record first year, after a losing record the previous year
won a national title in year 3
between '07-'11 Bama went 54-12, 81%
1 national championship (playing for 2nd national championship)
1 SEC championship
1 undefeated season (2 undefeated regular seasons)
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:24 pm to LsuTool
quote:
"Miles only wins because of Saban's players" -every gump in America circa 2007
I got sick to death of this crap.
2007 - CLM's 3rd year at LSU.
2009 - $sban's 3rd year at Bama.
Les Miles won with Saban's players to the same extent Saban won with Shula's - but that little nugget of truth is forever lost to ESPN, CBS, and Gumpland.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:34 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
quote:
They also said hiring $abun would make the 2000's look like the 70's again.
Well, in fairness, Nick hasn't been there long enough to reach the 70's era yet. If you look at at Bear's first 8 years, it isn't crazy to think Saban might hit similar numbers. Once, Bear started the winning tradition, he coached 14 more years. So, Saban still has 4 more years to start a tradition, then you can compare his next 14 years (as if he will stay anywhere that long) to Bear's body of work. But, at this point in their careers:
Bear '58-'62:
led Bama to 5-4-1 season first year, after a losing record the previous year
won a national title in year 4
between '58-'62 Bama went 41-8-4, 77.4%
1 national championship
1 SEC championship
1 undefeated seasons
Saban '07-'11:
led Bama to a 7-6 record first year, after a losing record the previous year
won a national title in year 3
between '07-'11 Bama went 54-12, 81%
1 national championship (playing for 2nd national championship)
1 SEC championship
1 undefeated season (2 undefeated regular seasons)
Why in the f... would we just compare the first 8 years...and not the entire body of work.
Let me save you the trouble....They thought they could buy winning tradition since theirs died.....and well Miles has largely prevented that from happening.
And BTW $abun will never be a hair on the Bears arse
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